SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
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SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
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@Mario_pana:
XBOX360 is the loser of the 7th Generation? You are so funny....
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Psyberius said:
Fanboism aside:
The sony AAA's next year rock...I see like 6 i'm snapping up myself....but a ton of those releases are coming out in dead weeks...weeks where people just don't buy consoles. Seriously...do the math...Sony is currently behind AT LEAST THREE MILLION. They lost ANOTHER Christmas(and by a ton), have lost every week for the last 2-3 months and yet you think they're going to some how make up 3 million in the next year? I don't get how you can see that even on the most pro-Sony of projections. Xbox would literally have to stop selling completely in order for the PS3 to over take it in 2013. Worldwide I am assuming as Europe is just weird. The only reason I see PS3 passing 360 at all is the fact that Sony seems bent on trying to push 10 year lifetimes on all their consoles still. Those days are ending for console methinks... Lets face it...not that it even matters(as the author stated quite well) but Sony may NEVER pass the 360 my friend...not even with Sony flogging them for 10 years. Don't EVER forget that a bunch of those sales are to people who use them as bluray players 100 times more than they use them as consoles. The next MS console is going to have bluray in it which is going to take a compelling reason for A LOT of people to own a PS(x) console. Lastly and disconnected from the conversation: Ever wonder if there would even be a PS3 now if MS had gone blueray in the first place? Things that make you go hmmm. |
360 having a bluray player would've made it cost as much as PS3 at launch so PS3 would be leading by now. Microsoft hasn't dominated this holiday and Sony STILL hasn't hit $199. Also those exclusives releasing during "dead weeks" will cause those weeks to become very lively for Sony. The 10 year lifecycle is alive and well as long as third parties support consoles and I don't see any reason to doubt it considering PS2 is on year what? 13? Sony will start selling PS3 in those same markets PS2 is still selling in once it's under $200 and we'll see another surge in sales.
| Mario_pana said: If anyone asked me I would say that the Xbox 360 lost this generation not PS3, the reason for this in that the 360 came out in November 2005 and the PS3 in December 2006. As well as the PS3 came out in Europe and Australia in March 2007. So the 360 got a one year and a half head start than Sony. Just because North America /USA sties to make people believe the PS3 lost does't mean the Sony is the looser. Look at the good old days of PlayStation and Nintendo where kings of the console market. But Microsoft has not won a generation which makes them the losers and I am not trying to have a go at anyone and people know it's the truth. If anyone asked me if Xbox won vs PS3 I would say no because the new PlayStation or Xbox have not even been officially anounced so it still continues. |
Don't forgt PS3 launched %50 more expensive than xbox. That couple with the timing should have made Xbox double its sales but the fact that it's about to get passed outright just shows people still prefer PS on an even playing field (both out, same price) btw PS3 is still $50 more this year and outselling 360 despite being more expensive the whole gen.
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peachbuggy said: Check your cumulative figures. You have Ps3 at 75.2m at the end of this year... yet clearly on the main page Ps3 is at 71.8m. So there's a shortfall of 4.4m. There is no way in hell the Ps3 is gonna get anywhere near that number in 2 weeks, hence your prediction falls flat on its arse straightaway. There's no way it can make up those numbers either in the coming years either, as your predictions for those years are even more ridiculous, given that nextgen consoles will be out by then. |
75.2 is shipment... so where you got 3 million off??? I guess I'm near the spot.
The VGC will show for end of 2012 any number near 73.5m.
Edit - I checked again my prediction... I'm 400k for reach it in Europe and US... so I guess I'm on spot because there is two week datas yet.
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Metallicube said: Lol no it will not. At this rate, I'm not so sure it will even pass the 360, as it has outsold the PS3 most weeks during the holiday season. |
The Gap in the holidays is too low to count... less than 200k... PS3 will win this year with 1.5m advantage (or more).
| VGKing said: I think the fact that PS3 will surpass 360 itself isn't that important, its what it means that gets people mad. It means the Playstation brand is still strong and once it surpasses the 360...it means its stronger. It also means that next-gen Sony has the chance to take the lead much earlier since the Playstation brand has recovered. (No, Playstation Vita isn't any indication of the strength of the Playstation brand) |
The 360 sold 50+ million more than the last console, has the biggest third party franchises on its platform, and is dominant in North America so I doubt any 360 fans will care if the PS3 ever does manage to pass the 360 (other than to roll their eyes at people trying to spin what amounts to a massive decline in marketshare and mindshare from last generation).
As for the Playstation brand having recovered, from where I'm sitting it doesn't dominate North America, Japan, UK, etc and Vita is basically a massive flop so to me that isn't even close to a recovery for the brand. As for that chance of taking the lead next generation we'll have to wait and see what happens but this past year has shown they're still far from their old selves.
So another 1.7m sold this year? In less than 3 weeks? Don't think so. Also i see you are using the old Sony chestnut of shipped vs sold. Well those 2m will have to be sold sometime so when is that gonna be? So you are basically saying all those extra 2m a year Sony ship will suddenly sell at the end of 2017, so in 2017 Sony will sell an amazing 17m? loooool. Also your shipment predictions for 2013 and 2014 are ridiculous. So many people in your other thread have told you so yet you refuse to listen to logic. Don't forget the Wii is a moving target but i forgot, i'm not talking to a reasonable poster.
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Looks like MS fans are already preparing their "It doesn't matter" speeches.