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sergiodaly on 26 December 2012
keroncoward said:


I never mentioned you specifically and it seems like my statement somehow fell in your garden. Whatever.......

you did quote a response to me and mention he was battling bias persons, if that is not for me, you have a very wrong way of expressing your self. btw nice way to make a argument for the sake of the discussion... deflecting and changing the subject, good strategy. thumbs up.

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keroncoward on 26 December 2012
sergiodaly said:
keroncoward said:
sergiodaly said:
Nem said:

I find it funny how 1.25 CPU is slow and 1.6 is fast. Only in the internet... its those 350Mhz that make the difference!

It might be easier for people to say Nintendo is slow and Microsoft is fast! Its about as obvious that theres no logic to it.

3 cores @1.25 is (not a little bit, a lot) slower than 8 or 16 cores @ 1.6
here in the internet and everywhere.

i don't get what is so difficult to understand...


Different cores can process different amounts, it doesn't matter how many of them you have so much as it matters the total amount it all produces.

so... low number of cores with low speed produces the same as more core count at higher speed??????



Archetecture........VLSI engineering is very important and no one here seems to ever mention that. I understand what youre saying and i agree the new Xbox will have a better cpu than the Wii U obviously but lets not quickly jump to the conclusion that it will be a lot more powerful . Lets be real here a lot of people were comparing clock speeds and deeming the Wii U's cpu slower than the Xbox360 which is absolute rubbish.



keroncoward on 26 December 2012
sergiodaly said:
keroncoward said:
 


I never mentioned you specifically and it seems like my statement somehow fell in your garden. Whatever.......

you did quote a response to me and mention he was battling bias persons, if that is not for me, you have a very wrong way of expressing your self. btw nice way to make a argument for the sake of the discussion... deflecting and changing the subject, good strategy. thumbs up.


I was speaking in general and if i wanted to mention you i could and would have replied directly to you. You obviously probably feel offended or think you need to defend yourself so maybe you really are a little bias?



VGKing on 26 December 2012

Does anyone actually care about Kinect 2? Most people that I know have it never use it.

Another thing: A console can't be in beta can it? Maybe they mean the system's OS is in beta or something?



keroncoward on 26 December 2012
Mazty said:
keroncoward said:
Mazty said:
z101 said:
sergiodaly said:
Nem said:

I find it funny how 1.25 CPU is slow and 1.6 is fast. Only in the internet... its those 350Mhz that make the difference!

It might be easier for people to say Nintendo is slow and Microsoft is fast! Its about as obvious that theres no logic to it.

3 cores @1.25 is (not a little bit, a lot) slower than 8 or 16 cores @ 1.6
here in the internet and everywhere.

i don't get what is so difficult to understand...


Not necessarly. Depends on the CPU tech. And other rumors pointed out that half of the cores will be used for kinect. So it seems true that all next gen consoles will have similar power.

If that is true then a basic $600-$700 PC will wipe the floor with all the consoles, which is really just someones laptop and console budget combined. 

My 3 year old PC hammers the crap out of the Wii U in everyway and it's using yester-years tech e.g. DDR2 RAM and a phenom II. The consoles are going to have to watch out for the steam box if they really think seriously low-clock speeds are going to give them next-gen capabilities. 


So much power just to play an exclusive like Farmville. Im happy for you....


World of Warcraft? Starcraft? Diablo? Planetside 2?
All games at a true 1080p resolution?
The bigger, better version of BF3?
DX11?

Almost all MMO's are PC only, something you have forgotten....
Oh wait nah u just jelly ^-^


Nice you spent a lot more money than the rest of us to play 4 relavant exclusive games. Not only that youre actually so superior you felt the need to come here and boast that you have a gaming PC that you can upgrade next year with a video card and RAM more expensive than any console just so you can be on top and boast on more forums that you have the best. Those 4 games were definately worth the price.



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Jaywood2010 on 26 December 2012
VGKing said:
Does anyone actually care about Kinect 2? Most people that I know have it never use it.

Another thing: A console can't be in beta can it? Maybe they mean the system's OS is in beta or something?


Yes a console can be in beta.  Basically the send out kits and developers will learn about it and start developing games for it.  If they find any bugs they will report it.  




       

osed125 on 26 December 2012
VGKing said:
Does anyone actually care about Kinect 2? Most people that I know have it never use it.

Another thing: A console can't be in beta can it? Maybe they mean the system's OS is in beta or something?

When something goes Beta it doesn't always mean software, it can be hardware as well.



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sergiodaly on 26 December 2012
keroncoward said:
sergiodaly said:
keroncoward said:
sergiodaly said:
Nem said:

I find it funny how 1.25 CPU is slow and 1.6 is fast. Only in the internet... its those 350Mhz that make the difference!

It might be easier for people to say Nintendo is slow and Microsoft is fast! Its about as obvious that theres no logic to it.

3 cores @1.25 is (not a little bit, a lot) slower than 8 or 16 cores @ 1.6
here in the internet and everywhere.

i don't get what is so difficult to understand...


Different cores can process different amounts, it doesn't matter how many of them you have so much as it matters the total amount it all produces.

so... low number of cores with low speed produces the same as more core count at higher speed??????



Archetecture........VLSI engineering is very important and no one here seems to ever mention that. I understand what youre saying and i agree the new Xbox will have a better cpu than the Wii U obviously but lets not quickly jump to the conclusion that it will be a lot more powerful . Lets be real here a lot of people were comparing clock speeds and deeming the Wii U's cpu slower than the Xbox360 which is absolute rubbish.

so... we agree after all... i was just trying to explain Nem that its not just 350Mhz separating the two CPUs... its more than that. if the architecture is similar, i am sorry but i will keep my original statement that is a lot faster, if it uses a worse architecture than yes, it might not make such a difference. but i doubt the latter.

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VGKing on 26 December 2012
osed125 said:
VGKing said:
Does anyone actually care about Kinect 2? Most people that I know have it never use it.

Another thing: A console can't be in beta can it? Maybe they mean the system's OS is in beta or something?

When something goes Beta it doesn't always mean software, it can be hardware as well.

Hardware problems can't be patched out.....so the proper term for a "console in beta" would be a Prototype.



osed125 on 26 December 2012
VGKing said:
osed125 said:
VGKing said:
Does anyone actually care about Kinect 2? Most people that I know have it never use it.

Another thing: A console can't be in beta can it? Maybe they mean the system's OS is in beta or something?

When something goes Beta it doesn't always mean software, it can be hardware as well.

Hardware problems can't be patched out.....so the proper term for a "console in beta" would be a Prototype.

Most people use the Prototype term when referring to hardware, but calling the console in Beta is also correct.

Edit: I'm not sure about this one, but the term prototype sometimes refers to a hardware that is still in a early stage of development, while the term beta means that is pretty close to the final version.



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