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JayWood2010 said:
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VGKing said:
I expect PS4 to be announced early in the year at some Playstation Meeting in Japan. Release date will be December in Japan next year with early 2014 everywhere else. They can't let Nintendo dominate the portable and console market in Japan.....

I know they've done that with both portables but why would they avoid BF and Cyber Monday if the console is ready?

If it's possible then launch worlwide in holiday 2013...that would be great!
But if look at how they launched the Vita, this is what I'm going by. A PS4 would be much more difficult to build so I doubt they could pull off a worldwide launch within a few weeks.(I'm surprise Nintendo pulled it off TBH)

I don't know I feel like they would almost have to release in the US earlier if they could only make enough for one region (Japan doesn't really get a spike during Christmas).  If you're going to launch somewhere in 2013 it HAS to be the US given how far behind they fell this gen.  It's the one region they haven't been able to turn around.

yeah I agree that would be the best option, but why did Sony release the Vita in Japan first despite it having like no Japanese games? There has to be some reason to that.....

yeah they've done that with both portables if I'm not mistaken.  I don't get it and I don't get how they could miss the holidays by mere weeks and the millions of install base it would bring in.  I feel like if it and xbox launch at the same time they will be in a deadheat even if people want xbox more.  My logic there is that xbox may sell out first, but there are always supply shortages so then parents will buy PS4 considering their kid probably just wants COD or something that is on both.  They won't pay $1000 for an xbox online before they get a PS4 for $400 so they would almost certainly both sell out.

I'm still calling it, but Call of Duty will stay on PS360.  They ay port it to the new consoles but they will still be for current hardware as well so it wont be a system seller until a few years.

I agree just like COD2 and COD3 were on old and new alike.  There will be a lot of simultaneous releases for both.  I also think we'll see upscaled Skyrim and Battlefield for Xbox3/PS4, but we'll still see sell out demand for the systems considering they'll be the first next-gen systems that are noticably more powerful than the PS360.  If they release at the same time I don't think either will pull ahead because they can only manufacture so many in that period and systems usually sell out.   If they're the same price we could see a dead heat in America after Christmas 2013 which would be a huge change from this gen.  Also WiiU sales could suffer if two systems launch to suck up potential sales.




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platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
VGKing said:
platformmaster918 said:
VGKing said:
platformmaster918 said:
VGKing said:
I expect PS4 to be announced early in the year at some Playstation Meeting in Japan. Release date will be December in Japan next year with early 2014 everywhere else. They can't let Nintendo dominate the portable and console market in Japan.....

I know they've done that with both portables but why would they avoid BF and Cyber Monday if the console is ready?

If it's possible then launch worlwide in holiday 2013...that would be great!
But if look at how they launched the Vita, this is what I'm going by. A PS4 would be much more difficult to build so I doubt they could pull off a worldwide launch within a few weeks.(I'm surprise Nintendo pulled it off TBH)

I don't know I feel like they would almost have to release in the US earlier if they could only make enough for one region (Japan doesn't really get a spike during Christmas).  If you're going to launch somewhere in 2013 it HAS to be the US given how far behind they fell this gen.  It's the one region they haven't been able to turn around.

yeah I agree that would be the best option, but why did Sony release the Vita in Japan first despite it having like no Japanese games? There has to be some reason to that.....

yeah they've done that with both portables if I'm not mistaken.  I don't get it and I don't get how they could miss the holidays by mere weeks and the millions of install base it would bring in.  I feel like if it and xbox launch at the same time they will be in a deadheat even if people want xbox more.  My logic there is that xbox may sell out first, but there are always supply shortages so then parents will buy PS4 considering their kid probably just wants COD or something that is on both.  They won't pay $1000 for an xbox online before they get a PS4 for $400 so they would almost certainly both sell out.

I'm still calling it, but Call of Duty will stay on PS360.  They ay port it to the new consoles but they will still be for current hardware as well so it wont be a system seller until a few years.

I agree just like COD2 and COD3 were on old and new alike.  There will be a lot of simultaneous releases for both.  I also think we'll see upscaled Skyrim and Battlefield for Xbox3/PS4, but we'll still see sell out demand for the systems considering they'll be the first next-gen systems that are noticably more powerful than the PS360.  If they release at the same time I don't think either will pull ahead because they can only manufacture so many in that period and systems usually sell out.   If they're the same price we could see a dead heat in America after Christmas 2013 which would be a huge change from this gen.  Also WiiU sales could suffer if two systems launch to suck up potential sales.


I don't know, I think it is really dangerous releasing two consoles so close to each other.   I personally don't think both of them will be releasing in 2013 but if they do hopefully they can stay a few months a part instead of launching the same month.  If they do they will hurt each other including themselves.  If they release with a decent difference then both should sell out fine as long as they both have a good launch game. The problem is Sony doesn't have a big American title besides Uncharted.  From the rumors sony is relying on established sequels too and I personally think that is a bad idea.  The beginning of the gen is when you want to grow new franchises.  Whatever Santa monica is working on hopefully itll make it at launch because Sony needs an american title.




       

JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
VGKing said:
platformmaster918 said:
VGKing said:
platformmaster918 said:
VGKing said:
I expect PS4 to be announced early in the year at some Playstation Meeting in Japan. Release date will be December in Japan next year with early 2014 everywhere else. They can't let Nintendo dominate the portable and console market in Japan.....

I know they've done that with both portables but why would they avoid BF and Cyber Monday if the console is ready?

If it's possible then launch worlwide in holiday 2013...that would be great!
But if look at how they launched the Vita, this is what I'm going by. A PS4 would be much more difficult to build so I doubt they could pull off a worldwide launch within a few weeks.(I'm surprise Nintendo pulled it off TBH)

I don't know I feel like they would almost have to release in the US earlier if they could only make enough for one region (Japan doesn't really get a spike during Christmas).  If you're going to launch somewhere in 2013 it HAS to be the US given how far behind they fell this gen.  It's the one region they haven't been able to turn around.

yeah I agree that would be the best option, but why did Sony release the Vita in Japan first despite it having like no Japanese games? There has to be some reason to that.....

yeah they've done that with both portables if I'm not mistaken.  I don't get it and I don't get how they could miss the holidays by mere weeks and the millions of install base it would bring in.  I feel like if it and xbox launch at the same time they will be in a deadheat even if people want xbox more.  My logic there is that xbox may sell out first, but there are always supply shortages so then parents will buy PS4 considering their kid probably just wants COD or something that is on both.  They won't pay $1000 for an xbox online before they get a PS4 for $400 so they would almost certainly both sell out.

I'm still calling it, but Call of Duty will stay on PS360.  They ay port it to the new consoles but they will still be for current hardware as well so it wont be a system seller until a few years.

I agree just like COD2 and COD3 were on old and new alike.  There will be a lot of simultaneous releases for both.  I also think we'll see upscaled Skyrim and Battlefield for Xbox3/PS4, but we'll still see sell out demand for the systems considering they'll be the first next-gen systems that are noticably more powerful than the PS360.  If they release at the same time I don't think either will pull ahead because they can only manufacture so many in that period and systems usually sell out.   If they're the same price we could see a dead heat in America after Christmas 2013 which would be a huge change from this gen.  Also WiiU sales could suffer if two systems launch to suck up potential sales.


I don't know, I think it is really dangerous releasing two consoles so close to each other.   I personally don't think both of them will be releasing in 2013 but if they do hopefully they can stay a few months a part instead of launching the same month.  If they do they will hurt each other including themselves.  If they release with a decent difference then both should sell out fine as long as they both have a good launch game. The problem is Sony doesn't have a big American title besides Uncharted.  From the rumors sony is relying on established sequels too and I personally think that is a bad idea.  The beginning of the gen is when you want to grow new franchises.  Whatever Santa monica is working on hopefully itll make it at launch because Sony needs an american title.

Guerilla, Media Molecule, and Suckerpunch have been quiet for awhile and Sucker Punch concluded infamous pretty decisively with the last game so they are the most likely to announce something new.




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yeah they've done that with both portables if I'm not mistaken.  I don't get it and I don't get how they could miss the holidays by mere weeks and the millions of install base it would bring in.  I feel like if it and xbox launch at the same time they will be in a deadheat even if people want xbox more.  My logic there is that xbox may sell out first, but there are always supply shortages so then parents will buy PS4 considering their kid probably just wants COD or something that is on both.  They won't pay $1000 for an xbox online before they get a PS4 for $400 so they would almost certainly both sell out.

Parents won't be buying $400+ consoles for their kids when there are $100-$250 alternatives....I don't think any of the consoles will sell out either.



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I don't know, I think it is really dangerous releasing two consoles so close to each other.   I personally don't think both of them will be releasing in 2013 but if they do hopefully they can stay a few months a part instead of launching the same month.  If they do they will hurt each other including themselves.  If they release with a decent difference then both should sell out fine as long as they both have a good launch game. The problem is Sony doesn't have a big American title besides Uncharted.  From the rumors sony is relying on established sequels too and I personally think that is a bad idea.  The beginning of the gen is when you want to grow new franchises.  Whatever Santa monica is working on hopefully itll make it at launch because Sony needs an american title.

Guerilla, Media Molecule, and Suckerpunch have been quiet for awhile and Sucker Punch concluded infamous pretty decisively with the last game so they are the most likely to announce something new.


I'm just going off of rumors.  But yes they are all a big possibility with a new IP.  I personally think Guerilla has a good chance of making a hit game.  They were close with Killzone 2.  I haven't seen enough from Media Molecule to predict anything with them.  Little Big Planet 1&2 was really good but if they want a break away hit they will need to expand as well.  Don't hate, but personally I think Sucker Punch is over rated and aren't they making Sly 4?

Remember I'm just talking about the american audience, which is why I think Guerilla has the best chance because they have already shown they can make a good FPS and with excellent graphics.  I'd personally like to see them go into the TPS genre and see what they can do. But the rumors are pointing at KZ4.




       

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I want a new gen but I still feel like this last gen has so much life left in it. The best selling console in recent times is still expensive. I wish MS and Sony would say naw to Nintendos pressure.



Max King of the Wild said:
I want a new gen but I still feel like this last gen has so much life left in it. The best selling console in recent times is still expensive. I wish MS and Sony would say naw to Nintendos pressure.

Have you played a multiplatform game recently? The limits on these consoles have been showing for years now. We are long overdue for a new generation.



JayWood2010 said:
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JayWood2010 said:


I don't know, I think it is really dangerous releasing two consoles so close to each other.   I personally don't think both of them will be releasing in 2013 but if they do hopefully they can stay a few months a part instead of launching the same month.  If they do they will hurt each other including themselves.  If they release with a decent difference then both should sell out fine as long as they both have a good launch game. The problem is Sony doesn't have a big American title besides Uncharted.  From the rumors sony is relying on established sequels too and I personally think that is a bad idea.  The beginning of the gen is when you want to grow new franchises.  Whatever Santa monica is working on hopefully itll make it at launch because Sony needs an american title.

Guerilla, Media Molecule, and Suckerpunch have been quiet for awhile and Sucker Punch concluded infamous pretty decisively with the last game so they are the most likely to announce something new.


I'm just going off of rumors.  But yes they are all a big possibility with a new IP.  I personally think Guerilla has a good chance of making a hit game.  They were close with Killzone 2.  I haven't seen enough from Media Molecule to predict anything with them.  Little Big Planet 1&2 was really good but if they want a break away hit they will need to expand as well.  Don't hate, but personally I think Sucker Punch is over rated and aren't they making Sly 4?

Remember I'm just talking about the american audience, which is why I think Guerilla has the best chance because they have already shown they can make a good FPS and with excellent graphics.  I'd personally like to see them go into the TPS genre and see what they can do. But the rumors are pointing at KZ4.

I agree Media Molecule is somewhat unproven but so far they've done well.  Sanzaru (the people who did Sly Collection) are working on Sly 4.  Sucker Punch hasn't announced anything since Infamous 2.  ND is 2 teams now so the one that's not doing Last of Us has had some time since U3 to get something done in time for next year.  I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple studios too so we'll see.




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VGKing said:
Max King of the Wild said:
I want a new gen but I still feel like this last gen has so much life left in it. The best selling console in recent times is still expensive. I wish MS and Sony would say naw to Nintendos pressure.

Have you played a multiplatform game recently? The limits on these consoles have been showing for years now. We are long overdue for a new generation.



Joke? Multiplayer games have has been the same shit since CSS