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If Office 2013 is an indication of anything, Apple doesn't have to do anything, Microsoft did all the work for them.



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With these threads lately, one has to wonder, do we want Microsoft as a whole dead?

Think long and hard at the alternatives.

They are:

1. "Today's desktop - brought to you by Ford - Built! Ford! Tough!"

and

2. Predictable 73 degrees and sunny all day every day



famousringo said:
mrstickball said:
To first unseat Microsoft, you have to have a relevant market share. Apple does not have that by a country mile.


That depends on how you think of market share:

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23849612#.UNDon6Uhw3E

http://www.asymco.com/2012/12/13/below-the-surface/

People are doing an awful lot of personal computing on devices where Office isn't even available. Every single iPad that gets deployed in enterprise is proof that work can get done without full Office compatibility. Microsoft's most powerful marketing tool is the conceit that work can't get done if it isn't Windows and it isn't Office, and mobile is blowing that assumption apart. 


My mum is a university professor and she's been given an iPad 3...but the only thing it's useful for (in terms of work) is its calendar service. Apple needs to get MS to release Office for iOS or universities and other businesses will start to deploy Windows 8 tablets to their workers instead of iPads.



disolitude said:
With these threads lately, one has to wonder, do we want Microsoft as a whole dead?

Think long and hard at the alternatives.

They are:

1. "Today's desktop - brought to you by Ford - Built! Ford! Tough!"

and

2. Predictable 73 degrees and sunny all day every day

I can't quite get what you're giong for here.



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man-bear-pig said:


My mum is a university professor and she's been given an iPad 3...but the only thing it's useful for (in terms of work) is its calendar service. Apple needs to get MS to release Office for iOS or universities and other businesses will start to deploy Windows 8 tablets to their workers instead of iPads.


That's because iOS is geared to content consumption, not content creation. - That's a mistake many have made when they realised that iOS can't do everything they want.
I.E. It's a play toy full of games, movies and music.
Try doing some rendering, encoding, photoshopping, write an essay... It's painfull on the slow hardware and the lack of decent input peripherals.




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There's one thing that this article brings to mind: a joke.

All the world's phone companies came together and analyzed how there were too many standards for phone charges. 35 to be more precise. And that wasn't doing the consumers any good.
So they decided to create an universal standard for all phone chargers. They said so and went about to doing it.
Now there are 36 standards for phone chargers.

For anyone that's ever worked with CATIA, Inventor, SolidEdge, SolidWorks, Kobalt and the rest, I believe they can relate to how frustrating it is to work across many platforms, formating workpieces into highly risky neutral files, and then reformatting them from one software to the other...a nightmare.
Office is universal. Truly universal. Everyone knows how to at least open, create or edit something from MS Office. With a couple of plugins you can make new documents available on old versions of the software. The article in this regard is absolutely moronic as it fails to understand what great benefit we all have from that "unwieldy" piece of software...that everyone can more or less wield for their needs.

So yeah...I don't usually talk in extremes, but I've found the article extremely stupid and more or less insulting in assuming that the majority of the population is having the same trouble as the writer. Dear Mr. Whoever, we are doing well with a piece of software that doesn't require 25 conversions of files from one business to another.



kowenicki said:

That article is so uninformed its actually funny.

What an apple fanboy load of old bollocks. Its a fanboy rant and extremely unprofessional.

Office leads because it is far and away the best and most complete office suite out there. Nothing comes remotely close. I have iWork... its shit.

I have the latest versions of all of the entire office suite for all of the 30 users in my business, they get new versions as they become available for free. Costs me next to nothing.

I suggest the writer wises up to how business are accessing this now.

Apple is tiny, miniscule, in the enterprise environment. Apple fans don't seem to realise this.


Wasn't WordPerfect the leading word document program during the 80s/90s?  Might be bringing up the past but I believe it was the leader (Microsoft didn't release Works till 1988).  They lost their lawsuit against Microsoft though.  I use Open Office right now cause I'm too lazy to even care to get Office. 



yes apple should kill office just like how they kill google maps!



 

Mr Khan said:
disolitude said:
With these threads lately, one has to wonder, do we want Microsoft as a whole dead?

Think long and hard at the alternatives.

They are:

1. "Today's desktop - brought to you by Ford - Built! Ford! Tough!"

and

2. Predictable 73 degrees and sunny all day every day

I can't quite get what you're giong for here.

I figure the confusing part is point 2 (point 1 is a reference to Google - inserting ads in to everything they make) 

Point 2 is a reference to the weather tile on the iPhone weather app which is always the perfect 73 degrees and sunny(doesn't change). I don't know about you but I will never fit in with the flawless 73 degree and sunny crowd.





famousringo said:
mrstickball said:
To first unseat Microsoft, you have to have a relevant market share. Apple does not have that by a country mile.


That depends on how you think of market share:

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23849612#.UNDon6Uhw3E

http://www.asymco.com/2012/12/13/below-the-surface/

People are doing an awful lot of personal computing on devices where Office isn't even available. Every single iPad that gets deployed in enterprise is proof that work can get done without full Office compatibility. Microsoft's most powerful marketing tool is the conceit that work can't get done if it isn't Windows and it isn't Office, and mobile is blowing that assumption apart. 


So when it comes to utilizing office-type products, what is the frequency of use among tablets, smartphones, and other non-desk/laptop connected devices? That's where it really matters, as opposed to simply measuring the data based on one arbitrary point of data.



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