or maybe the school needs an even bigger "NO GUNS ALLOWED" sign. im sure it was a simple mistake and this shooting simply didnt see the reletively small sign, surely if he had, he would have left.

we need to ban small guns signs, and implement new legislation, requiring all gun free zones to have signs at least 4 feet x 4 feet  in size.

what a nutcase

shot his mother who was a teacher,sounds like a crazy story in there somewhere,kids caught in the middle

r.i.p

Fuck yes I do, when someone shoots up an elementary school I talk about how gun culture is fucking disgusting and needs to be put under control, yeh. 

That would be bcause gun control/bans would be an illogical topic considering the science and statistics is against such an arguement.

and to bring it up, really just crass emotional arguement in the worst possible tatse... people who do should really be ashamed of themselves.

the was a gun ban at the school. guns werent allowed!! how did that turn out?

and what gun culture are you talking about, the only places where i see a gun culture, have very low crime. People who have gun culture i.e. people who know a lot about guns, collect them, shoot them a lot, frequent gun forums, know the history of the firearm, etc, these people are statistically not very likely at all to commit crimes.

but if you were to talk about crime culture, thug culture, gang culture, then you would be right. that is disgusting, and all to prevelent.

Now is NOT the time to argue and fight about gun laws.

A bunch of children just died who will never experience life. Wont know what it is to grow up and find love. Wont live long full lives. Will never have children of their own.

Today is a sad day. There is no need to fight and divide ourselves more. Gun laws do need to be discussed and evaluated but today is not that day.

We focus so much on what divides us and not what unites us. What happened today is disgusting. No need to drag it down even further

I would just like to see the conversation brought up not after we have a tragedy like this, it just pains me that we had a tragedy just like this during the election; the Aurora theater shooting, it became a hot topic for about a week or two and just vanished...

It really doesn't though.

They happen more often in the US, because the US is a bigger country.  Despite the oddity of so many happening at once... these things are very rare.  Therefore a country ten times bigger then most other countries is more likely going to have a mass killing.

There have been like... maybe 60 total in the last 30 years in the USA.  

For most countries... if it happens in their country once.  They'd have a higher per capita mass murder figure then us.

For example, just Brevik in Norway means that Norway has a MUCH higher per captia mass murder figure then the US does.  Even if you count all 60 in the US.

Which isn't to say Norway is a haven and breeding grounds for Mass killers.  Just that it's such a small number, it's silly to make any generalizing conclusions.

To blame it on America is to ignore the truth that these things are "seemingly" on the rise... everywhere really.   Hard to say though with such a low sample size.

Poor kids...

My prayers go to to those children parents and families.

2nd over 2.5 million people used a gun to defend themselves last year, compared to like 25k that were murder by them.  

and theres your problem. that many people wouldnt have needed to defend themselves if no one carried guns. Just look at the facts america has the highest gun deaths of any country that is not war torn and the only with gun culture.

where I live 90+% of the population dont even know where to find a gun and if people just get in a fist fight it sometimes makes the news, 

anyway theres no point in wasting my breathe theres no changing your mind but something needs to be done to he us culture of guns for this to stop happening.