Forums - Sales Discussion - It has only just hit me how ridiculous it is that the Wii is STILL sold out

johnlucas said:
TWRoO said:
Well the PS2 was in low supply for quite a while, not as bad as Wii. But if it had had a closer WW launch it may have been.... after all it was 7 months between Japan and American launch and a further ? months till PAL [2-4... I can't remember exactly]

And thats with only 2/3 of the systems being made. Edit... damnit, half the systems. wow. If PS2 was the record for the console produced fastest from launch then Wii has doubled that record!

See that part I bolded?

Now you understand why I say 240,000,000 MINIMUM lifetime sales of Wii.

The sad fact of the matter is that doubling that record may be just the beginning. The worst case scenario is doubling but we could very well see a tripling, quadrupling, and maybe even a quintupling of PS2's lifetime sales.

Nice to see people realizing just how strong the Wii is.

And remember...Wii Fit hasn't launched in the rest of the world yet.

Watch the numbers jump then.

You ain't seen nothin' yet.

John Lucas


...the hell?

You are the Patcher of the Wii, there is no way in hell will the Wii reach 240M by the end of this cycle. Stop with this nonsense, believe what you want but 240 Wii's in homes by that time is crazy.

Nintendo would have already been releasing another console by this time and so would Microsoft. 



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^ Exactly

... the hell

That explains Pachter, I mean JL's prediction.

Does anyone else think that JL is Pachter's account on VGC?



^ No, Pachter is a PS3 fanboi

Don't attack JL! Whatever he says is FACT! OK, the 240 mil thing is a little absurd. It will fall short, if it even comes close AT ALL But it will pass the PS2.




@Soriku

We will see....Only time and *coughs* Nintendo production of Wii's *coughs* will tell if it will surpass the PS2 or even sell 240 million units.



Yeah, I mean, I was gonna buy the Nintendo system first, no matter what it was. Always have, always will. However, I never expected I was buying the most popular console ever, and what turned out to be an on the spot purchase, is now one of my greatest buying decisions of all time. I'm digging the Wii.



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DMeisterJ said:
johnlucas said:
TWRoO said:
Well the PS2 was in low supply for quite a while, not as bad as Wii. But if it had had a closer WW launch it may have been.... after all it was 7 months between Japan and American launch and a further ? months till PAL [2-4... I can't remember exactly]

And thats with only 2/3 of the systems being made. Edit... damnit, half the systems. wow. If PS2 was the record for the console produced fastest from launch then Wii has doubled that record!

See that part I bolded?

Now you understand why I say 240,000,000 MINIMUM lifetime sales of Wii.

The sad fact of the matter is that doubling that record may be just the beginning. The worst case scenario is doubling but we could very well see a tripling, quadrupling, and maybe even a quintupling of PS2's lifetime sales.

Nice to see people realizing just how strong the Wii is.

And remember...Wii Fit hasn't launched in the rest of the world yet.

Watch the numbers jump then.

You ain't seen nothin' yet.

John Lucas


Here is the problem that you and Avinash_Tyagi have. Yes, it has outpaced the PS2, but your extremly lofty goal of 240 mil. Minimum, is not going to happen, as it is still being outpaced by the DS (Lite) and the DS will not even get to that goal, at half of the price. It may outsell the PS2, but your predictions have the Wii selling above and beyond all other systems, and it's still being outsold by the DS, so I don't know about that happening. I think that the Wii will sell well, and as ameratsu said, your argument falls apart when you believe that it will sell at a rate of at least 40 mil/year for five or six years. That will not happen. It will sell at max, 150 million consoles.

The sole reasonf or that is that in 3.5 years, we'll be playing the new XBOX, and a year or two after that, the new PlayStation, and as dated as the Wii looks now, it will look like a prehistoric fossil compared to the other systems, and I don't care what you say, people like buying the new thing, not old stuff that's been on the market for six years.

So that brings me to the fact that in the next 3.5 years, the Wii would have to sell around 220 million consoles, or seventy three million consoles per year, which from last year, would be a five time increase in production. But since the Wii would continue sellingn when the next generation of consoles come out, let's say that if it makes it to 200 million before the next XBOX comes out, it would continue to sell another forty million, reaching your lofty goal. Sales would have to be around fifty million for the next three years, sustained, against the competition priced only fifty bucks ahead of it. It is not going to happen, you're taking the first year of sales, and applying it for a lifetime.

I think that when this year ends, it'll be safe to say that we can pick a winner, but your predictions make no sense. You just happened to get lucky and predict that the Wii would sell extremly well, and your prediction for 2007 is still wrong, as it's just now hitting 20 mil, and your sig said at 11:59:59 PM on New years eve. So forgive me if your predictions don't resonate well with me.

 

Wii is wining vs the DS and is almost double the PS2

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=DS&reg2=All&cons3=PS2&reg3=All&weeks=156

 

Now this one. 

 http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=DS&reg2=All&cons3=PS2&reg3=All&weeks=156&weekly=1

 Notice how the Ps2 sales (on average) are higher the further along the timeline you go.

 

 

The sole reasonf or that is that in 3.5 years, we'll be playing the new XBOX, and a year or two after that, the new PlayStation, and as dated as the Wii looks now, it will look like a prehistoric fossil compared to the other systems, and I don't care what you say, people like buying the new thing, not old stuff that's been on the market for six years.


So why is the PS2 still competing with the 360 and PS3 in sales.

 

So that brings me to the fact that in the next 3.5 years, the Wii would have to sell around 220 million consoles, or seventy three million consoles per year, which from last year, would be a five time increase in production. But since the Wii would continue sellingn when the next generation of consoles come out, let's say that if it makes it to 200 million before the next XBOX comes out, it would continue to sell another forty million, reaching your lofty goal.

All it requies is a 300,000 increase every 3 months to produce

250M by July 2012

200M by October 2011

 

Sales would have to be around fifty million for the next three years, sustained, against the competition priced only fifty bucks ahead of it. It is not going to happen, you're taking the first year of sales, and applying it for a lifetime.

 

See PS2 Vs GC. GC was much cheaper but didn't sell.

 

And why would it only be $50 ahead. There can still be price drops for the wii.

 

 

 



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Soriku said:
^ No, Pachter is a PS3 fanboi

Don't attack JL! Whatever he says is FACT! OK, the 240 mil thing is a little absurd. It will fall short, if it even comes close AT ALL But it will pass the PS2.

 Soriku is right. Here's to all u Wii nonbelievers out there! The Wii will continue to surprise...



@ catprog

You're just like JL. If nintendo could triple production, the competition not drop their prices, the Wii drop their price, the competition have sucky games come out, the Wii have great games come out, the wii get third party support, the competition lose third party support, Ellen Degeneres turn straight, Jay-Z turn gay, Beyonce get a sex change, PS3 be given away for free, Microsoft gives you money for buying their system, the world come to an end, and the universe implode, then the Wii will win.

There are so many stipulations in your post that Nintendo has to do to reach thhis goal, it's unlikely that it will even get close. I didn't respond to your rebuttals because they are all speculation, and anecdotal. And nothing concrete and makes no sense.



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