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riderz13371 on 11 December 2012
ironmanDX said:
riderz13371 said:


Companies who sell products tend to rely on sales and profits in order to guage success, not the ramblings of Internet trolls. Your examples to back up your comment have been hilarious. No, I'm no Twilight or Beiber fan but you listed two things that are massively successful. I somehow doubt that when Island Records is deposting another million dollar Beebs check or when Stephanie Meyer decides to go on a Scrooge McDuck swim through her Twilight gold, they are thinking that you know, despite all this massive profit and success, they should probably just wrap it up and declare it all a failure because some people don't like the product.

Yes but due to the massive hate they get, their downfall will come much sooner and you'll be seeing Justin Bieber on Maury yelling " I ain't dat babies daddy". Why do you think people like Stevie Wonder or John Lennon are still relivant to this day? Singers like Justin Bieber and movies such as Twilight are something I like to call a short term success. Couple years from now Twilight will be all but forgotten, whereas movies like the LOTR trilogy and Harry Potter series will still be talked about and remember for many many years to come. 

Yes because everyone loves LOTR and Harry Potter. You're now officially arguing against yourself. Good job......

Not everyone but the majority. Majority rules.



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ironmanDX on 11 December 2012
riderz13371 said:
ironmanDX said:
riderz13371 said:


Companies who sell products tend to rely on sales and profits in order to guage success, not the ramblings of Internet trolls. Your examples to back up your comment have been hilarious. No, I'm no Twilight or Beiber fan but you listed two things that are massively successful. I somehow doubt that when Island Records is deposting another million dollar Beebs check or when Stephanie Meyer decides to go on a Scrooge McDuck swim through her Twilight gold, they are thinking that you know, despite all this massive profit and success, they should probably just wrap it up and declare it all a failure because some people don't like the product.

Yes but due to the massive hate they get, their downfall will come much sooner and you'll be seeing Justin Bieber on Maury yelling " I ain't dat babies daddy". Why do you think people like Stevie Wonder or John Lennon are still relivant to this day? Singers like Justin Bieber and movies such as Twilight are something I like to call a short term success. Couple years from now Twilight will be all but forgotten, whereas movies like the LOTR trilogy and Harry Potter series will still be talked about and remember for many many years to come. 

Yes because everyone loves LOTR and Harry Potter. You're now officially arguing against yourself. Good job......

Not everyone but the majority. Majority rules.

Majority of what? Your small social circle comparitive to the population of the world? What majority are we talking here?



riderz13371 on 11 December 2012
ironmanDX said:
riderz13371 said:
ironmanDX said:
riderz13371 said:


Companies who sell products tend to rely on sales and profits in order to guage success, not the ramblings of Internet trolls. Your examples to back up your comment have been hilarious. No, I'm no Twilight or Beiber fan but you listed two things that are massively successful. I somehow doubt that when Island Records is deposting another million dollar Beebs check or when Stephanie Meyer decides to go on a Scrooge McDuck swim through her Twilight gold, they are thinking that you know, despite all this massive profit and success, they should probably just wrap it up and declare it all a failure because some people don't like the product.

Yes but due to the massive hate they get, their downfall will come much sooner and you'll be seeing Justin Bieber on Maury yelling " I ain't dat babies daddy". Why do you think people like Stevie Wonder or John Lennon are still relivant to this day? Singers like Justin Bieber and movies such as Twilight are something I like to call a short term success. Couple years from now Twilight will be all but forgotten, whereas movies like the LOTR trilogy and Harry Potter series will still be talked about and remember for many many years to come. 

Yes because everyone loves LOTR and Harry Potter. You're now officially arguing against yourself. Good job......

Not everyone but the majority. Majority rules.

Majority of what? Your small social circle comparitive to the population of the world? What majority are we talking here?

Majority of the people that have watched it? Do I need to spoon feed you people information? Jesus Christ.

RottenTomatoes:

Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring - 92%

Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - 96%

Lord of the Rings: The Return of The King - 94%

Of course not everyone who watched it liked it whether it be them just trolling to "stand out" or just genuinly didn't care for the film. 



ironmanDX on 11 December 2012
riderz13371 said:
ironmanDX said:
riderz13371 said:
ironmanDX said:
riderz13371 said:


Companies who sell products tend to rely on sales and profits in order to guage success, not the ramblings of Internet trolls. Your examples to back up your comment have been hilarious. No, I'm no Twilight or Beiber fan but you listed two things that are massively successful. I somehow doubt that when Island Records is deposting another million dollar Beebs check or when Stephanie Meyer decides to go on a Scrooge McDuck swim through her Twilight gold, they are thinking that you know, despite all this massive profit and success, they should probably just wrap it up and declare it all a failure because some people don't like the product.

Yes but due to the massive hate they get, their downfall will come much sooner and you'll be seeing Justin Bieber on Maury yelling " I ain't dat babies daddy". Why do you think people like Stevie Wonder or John Lennon are still relivant to this day? Singers like Justin Bieber and movies such as Twilight are something I like to call a short term success. Couple years from now Twilight will be all but forgotten, whereas movies like the LOTR trilogy and Harry Potter series will still be talked about and remember for many many years to come. 

Yes because everyone loves LOTR and Harry Potter. You're now officially arguing against yourself. Good job......

Not everyone but the majority. Majority rules.

Majority of what? Your small social circle comparitive to the population of the world? What majority are we talking here?

Majority of the people that have watched it? Do I need to spoon feed you people information? Jesus Christ.

RottenTomatoes:

Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring - 92%

Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - 96%

Lord of the Rings: The Return of The King - 94%

Of course not everyone who watched it liked it whether it be them just trolling to "stand out" or just genuinly didn't care for the film. 


Rotten tomatoes wouldn't even account for %5 of people who have watched any movies ever. Wrong again. Profit is what matters, not people on the internet who vote with a Tomato.



ironmanDX on 11 December 2012

Even on the first page of your tomatoes site it has a ladder based system which orders them in earnings. Your own source, or "sauce" in this case disagreed with you. FAIL.



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riderz13371 on 11 December 2012


Rotten tomatoes wouldn't even account for %5 of people who have watched any movies ever. Wrong again. Profit is what matters, not people on the internet who vote with a Tomato.

I'm just looking at it with facts not some imaginary 5% number you pulled out of your ass



riderz13371 on 11 December 2012
ironmanDX said:

Even on the first page of your tomatoes site it has a ladder based system which orders them in earnings. Your own source, or "sauce" in this case disagreed with you. FAIL.

I hope you realize that only includes US box office numbers. Probably not, since you like to cherry pick information to try to prove your own point.



ironmanDX on 11 December 2012
ironmanDX said:

Even on the first page of your tomatoes site it has a ladder based system which orders them in earnings. Your own source, or "sauce" in this case disagreed with you. FAIL.


Here are some facts above.

I was being generous with the %5, it's probably more like %1.

 

123,000 voted for skyfall while tickets have sold millions worldwide? Majority? WRONG AGAIN DUDE!!!



J_Allard on 12 December 2012
riderz13371 said:


Companies who sell products tend to rely on sales and profits in order to guage success, not the ramblings of Internet trolls. Your examples to back up your comment have been hilarious. No, I'm no Twilight or Beiber fan but you listed two things that are massively successful. I somehow doubt that when Island Records is deposting another million dollar Beebs check or when Stephanie Meyer decides to go on a Scrooge McDuck swim through her Twilight gold, they are thinking that you know, despite all this massive profit and success, they should probably just wrap it up and declare it all a failure because some people don't like the product.

Yes but due to the massive hate they get, their downfall will come much sooner and you'll be seeing Justin Bieber on Maury yelling " I ain't dat babies daddy". Why do you think people like Stevie Wonder or John Lennon are still relivant to this day? Singers like Justin Bieber and movies such as Twilight are something I like to call a short term success. Couple years from now Twilight will be all but forgotten, whereas movies like the LOTR trilogy and Harry Potter series will still be talked about and remember for many many years to come. 

Why would massive hate mean the downfall comes much sooner? You think 99% of the people who hate Bieber or Twilight were ever going to give either a chance anyway? Those people don't factor into what the companies selling the product even care about. I'll make it simpler for you. A company could come out with a new tampon tomorrow and if 99% of men say they aren't a fan and would never buy it and "massively hate" it, that company doesn't care because the product was not for them in the first place. So the "massive hate" is entirely irrelevant. Also, something like Twilight is already done. The material is exhausted. There is no need for a downfall.

To further bestow some logic upon you, why the **** are you comparing a video game peripheral to Stevie Wonder or John Lennon? You think MS minds if Kinect only lasts a couple of generations? Peripherals in video games come and go. So in 30 years if we're not still using Kinects on our Xbox 9's, it's a failure?



riderz13371 on 12 December 2012
J_Allard said:
riderz13371 said:


Companies who sell products tend to rely on sales and profits in order to guage success, not the ramblings of Internet trolls. Your examples to back up your comment have been hilarious. No, I'm no Twilight or Beiber fan but you listed two things that are massively successful. I somehow doubt that when Island Records is deposting another million dollar Beebs check or when Stephanie Meyer decides to go on a Scrooge McDuck swim through her Twilight gold, they are thinking that you know, despite all this massive profit and success, they should probably just wrap it up and declare it all a failure because some people don't like the product.

Yes but due to the massive hate they get, their downfall will come much sooner and you'll be seeing Justin Bieber on Maury yelling " I ain't dat babies daddy". Why do you think people like Stevie Wonder or John Lennon are still relivant to this day? Singers like Justin Bieber and movies such as Twilight are something I like to call a short term success. Couple years from now Twilight will be all but forgotten, whereas movies like the LOTR trilogy and Harry Potter series will still be talked about and remember for many many years to come. 

Why would massive hate mean the downfall comes much sooner? You think 99% of the people who hate Bieber or Twilight were ever going to give either a chance anyway? Those people don't factor into what the companies selling the product even care about. I'll make it simpler for you. A company could come out with a new tampon tomorrow and if 99% of men say they aren't a fan and would never buy it and "massively hate" it, that company doesn't care because the product was not for them in the first place. So the "massive hate" is entirely irrelevant. Also, something like Twilight is already done. The material is exhausted. There is no need for a downfall.

To further bestow some logic upon you, why the **** are you comparing a video game peripheral to Stevie Wonder or John Lennon? You think MS minds if Kinect only lasts a couple of generations? Peripherals in video games come and go. So in 30 years if we're not still using Kinects on our Xbox 9's, it's a failure?

Well yea considering the fact that they spend money to invest into the technology and to advertise the product/make games for the product. Why wouldn't they care if it isn't used for the years to come?