You should learn how the PS+ works, cause you have no idea about it. Trust me, it's a great business model that will bring Sony money they wouldn't get otherwise. Quite a lot of money actually.

I see nothing wrong in bundling cheap old games (even PS2 ports!) with controllers. Nintendo is bundling controllers with brand new games day 1 and nobody is claiming that their stuff isn't selling!

I wouldn't say that that's what they're doing. I think the price of the bundled games is factored into the price of the console. The 250GB and 500GB models would probably cost less than they do without the bundled games. I do think it's a good way to generate hype for some series that might not otherwise have it though like "Infamous". Still I think the best PS3 bundle would be "Uncharted Collection" and "God of War Saga" with the free year of Playstation Plus, the 500 GB HDD, and a choice of white or black console for $299.

considering the extreme crash of wii software sales in the past 24 month this thread is pretty strange.
Making profits without selling games?
Making profits with extremly cheap wii bundles?

The prize of ths ps3 is pretty solid in the past few year and every year the cost of production is falling.
If you sell a ps3 at 250dollars and the win is about 52dollar,than the win is still around 50 dollar if you add one or two pieces of plastic(blu ray game)to the console,call it bundle and sell it for 250dollars.
Estimate that every new customer would buy(avarage) 2 more games,some blu rays and some dlc's =30-50dollars more.

Galaki!! Hahaha best threads

It will sell over 10 million copies which is good enough.  Also it has a higher attachment ratio then GT3 already.  Tried out the Corvette concept car yesterday its actually pretty decent.  The "Red Bull X2011 Prototype11" is my favorite car so far its a beast and with it I will win tons of races and make a lot of money.

this is the thing sales.

You have not countered anythin in my thread. my op was that you cant call a game a flop based on early week sales.

You were unable to counter that, but you were able to counter points that i wasn't making and then called me a "new strain of fanboy" who says digital sales are becomong more and more relevan, which is factually true.

see even here you're making a backhanded comment about something that isn't even on topic., saying "last place=best deals" when now three people have pointed out to you that these are old games.

You don't respond to points, you argue points that YOU would rather argue, regardless of how relatable they are.

Here is a very simple explination for these bundles. One all of these games are at least 2 years old two the company is likely losing money from people buying these titles used. Lastly, all of these games have sequels worth buying and Sony believes that people will want to continue the series if they enjoy the game. So now they have sold another copy of Uncharted 3, God of War 3 or God of War Origins, Ratchet and Clank TOD, Quest for Booty, All for One, the Original Trilogy or Full Frontal Assault, and finally Little Big Planet 2, Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves, or Little Big Planet Racing. 

Customer feels like they are getting a good deal so Sony builds satifisfaction and loyalty with their products and they generate future sales. 

Bundles are genius, samething as what they do with Playstation Plus they offer free games usually with lots of DLC or from third parties to get word of mouth marketing out. Or to encourage you to buy a whole series. This worked on me when they gave me Back to the Future and worked again when they gave me Walking Dead. 

Bundles and free games are awesome and they sell systems. Why else do you think that all three systems have pretty much done this from launch. These decisions make plenty of sense it is this thread that doesn't.

That a very cool bundle I got mine with Star Wars:Racer.