You can still say it's the last pre-indo-european language spoken in western Europe. That's still pretty cool.

Kynes
Whats your point, every language borrows words from othrrs

Zein da indartsuago, euskaldunen arteko anaitasuna edo Nintendo ta Sony zaleen arteko amorrua? Jaja. ;)

You can believe whatever you want, I'm not going to change it, but you can't change history. That region where you born was part of Hispania province of the roman empire, latter it was part of the Visigode Spain, then was part of the Kingdom of Navarra, that later it adheres to the kingdom of Castilla, and then Castilla and Aragon adhere to form Spain, more than five hundred years ago. The historic regions of Spain are Castilla, Leon, Navarra and Aragon, the Basque region wasn't ever a kingdom or an independent country, and Catalonia was a region of Aragon. If you want to talk before the roman empire, then we will witness the atomization of every modern country, as then there weren't big countries due to the communication problems and lack of infrastructures.

The biggest problem in Spain is to cede the education system to the regions, an education system that leaves the regions the freedom to teach a false history. That's what the pro independence politicians saw clearly, and the other politicians didn't saw it.

Te estás yendo por la tangente.

I was talking about signed and aproved deals that both the central and the regional government accepted, like "L'estatut" where it says that the central government has to make some payments. the problem is that some of those payments haven't been done.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defence the Generalitat, it has done very, very bad decisions that should be ammended as soon as possible as well as stop spending money on certain things (like the embassies), but that doesn't mean that the central government can violate the agreements they have signed.

Oh. and no, the way I see it, Madrid doesn't hate us. But just let me say that Madrid is not Spain (something that many tend to forget), and that we aren't specially welcomed either.

Remember what happened with Endesa, a company which has Catalonia as their biggest market? How they fought to avoid Gas Natural buying it even though it would still be spanish only to sell it to an italian company? That wasn't hate, it's worse and more stupid: "you" (in general, not to you) just don't like us.

I'm just saying that the Basque that is used now has nothing to do with what was used a hundred years ago, less so to what was talked two millenniums ago. It's funny to listen to my father telling histories of when he was studying in Bilbao in the 60s, when guys from rural areas of Navarra and from Bilbao tried to talk in Basque and they had to talk in Spanish because they didn't understand each other

Actually that's incorrect. During the Reyes Catolicos era, there were "las Españas". Both Spain and Aragon had their own laws and currency. And when Isabel died Fernando wasn't allowed to become the king of Castilla.

It wasn't until the 1700's with Felipe V and after a war that Spain became what it is.

Cool. Again, I care about what people want now. You're still not addressing my main point.

Kynes
actually the basque dialects are the ones that remain unchanged since who knows
Batua is only a way to try to make Euskara live, making it more accesible for newcomers, but the roots are the very same (verbs, sufixes..etc)

eON offered more money, only that, but you should remember that Gas Natural wanted endesa at most at ~20€ share, and the final offer was over 45 euros share. It's something that any CEO would do, when some company tries to make an hostile takeover, it's your obligation to search for another company that wants to pay more.  Endesa was a private held company, and the government tried to make Pizarro accept the Gas Natural offer, but he did what anyone would do, create value to the shareholders. I can remember you that the Italian company entered in the auction because the Spanish government didn't want a German company controlling Endesa.

The l'estatut can say whatever it wants, as the other estatutos say, but if you add what all the estatutos say they deserve, we have a country that has to provide the regions more than 100% of the income. That's factually impossible, and Mas knows it. We had an incompetent government that made promises to all the regions, promises that are impossible to comply with, and now we have this irresolvable sudoku as Solbes (socialist economy minister) called it.

When I talk about Madrid, I'm only repeating what the politicians there say, everything bad comes from Madrid, everything is Madrid's fault.