"Yes, I'm biased. And so are you"

the difference is you made a judge purely based on personal view which caused you to prejudge a person without even noticing what he was doing. The guy was responding to what he said the bible said spoof course he would use the bible as that is source of the discussion. You basically were calling him a fundismentalist because of him quoting the bible when the discussion was based on what the bible said. So, basically on your bad call you just insulted him for doing what was actually neccassry for the discussion. It's like ifwe were to discuss what Washington say on x issue and when I quote his autobiograhpy you say oh your just like religious person. See how dumb that sounds? Off course he going to quote the bible because that is what argument was about...... What the bible was saying!

"What do you mean by the bible being "The actual source". "

The discussion was on what the bible said what is the best way to find out what it said.... quote the bible the actual source.

"Of course an old book like the bible is fancier than some shady website, but I was assuming that whatever branch of satanism OP follows, they have some kind of holy script or doctrine of their own. "

When did I say the bible was old and therefor has more crediable? If I wanted to discredit satanism I would point that there no historical moment in history to say this could be true or is.  He doesn't even us the history of how satanism is truest even a moment to us how he "controlling" us. How does he know this was there a event to make us believe this. As you have you say they must have some holy script but they do! It's called the the black pope and it was made in 1966.

" http://www.freewebs.com/specialbooks/The%20Satanic%20Bible%20(Underground%20Edition). pdf"

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The who created the group he felt like people didn't understand him and that felt all Christians are hypocritical .

the introduction is about how he saw men having lust with women and then seeing how Christianity was false because of this ( them being hypocritical). Then goes into rant about how god and the problem of evil. Oh joy. Then it gets good when the guy basically says I don't like God and feel like satan is really the hero of the story in the bible. But hey guys that just the introduction. Oh and don't forget this quote "In page 12 paragraph 5 where it admits it's not religion and was made really just to anti-deism and he thinks "lol" that this going to be consider a threat to people who are theist. Because it's freaking philosoically made by a guy who was rejected from his society and made a group based on this and the fact that saw some men be hypocritical than go to church. It's a religion and they don't even worship satan but they will defend satan because God is really the bad Guy! :(btw the guy really thinks he is sometype  of ultimate ego manic by the way he prasies himself. There basically a parody of religion by the reading of there bible in that there making fun of Christianity by calling himself a church of satan. It's basically a bad joke by strong-atheist (people who are against religion and go out of there). There you go I just debunked everything you argued for. The making the thread is trolling because that is what cult does every since it's creation.

"seem equally grounded in reality."

It's  not a religion satanism. They don't even believe in satan. But Christianity I would suggest you look up people like William lane Craig or Gary habermas as they very educated men who have gotten degrees and aren't some random guy claim they know the bible that is a Christian.

Warning: This is the truth and as I believe it, do not participate in this thread if you're easily offended or closed minded. The exchange of contradictory ideas is what keeps this thing called the search for knowledge going. This thread is for people who are open minded, logical, and don't deny facts. If you are christian, you can try to post in this thread, but if you are too offended and are just going to insult and blasheme my God and creator Satan, just please go away now.

Warning: This is the truth and as I believe it, do not participate in this thread if you're easily offended or closed minded. The exchange of contradictory ideas is what keeps this thing called the search for knowledge going. This thread is for people who are open minded, logical, and don't deny facts. If you are christian, you can try to post in this thread, but if you are too offended and are just going to insult and blasheme my God and creator Satan, just please go away now.

I have read your responses and it seems you are easily offended too. Your whole OP blashphemes God but you want us to not degrade Satan...thats not exactly open minded either. Talking in facts about Gods is an oxymoron. Religions are faith based, not factual.

Most atheists believe in science, logic, and reason. That's something they have in common with Satanists. They believe the world came from natural circumstance within the universe, and life came to be on it's own. Satanists believe that too. Most atheists base their morals upon logic and gut feelings, not an ages old book of unverifiable validity. I respect atheists for their reason, but I look down on them for never opening themselves up to the wonderful spiritual world that exists thinly veiled behind the obvious reality.

Christians, myself included, believe in science, logic, and reason. You can believe in God, and have logic and reason govern your daily life. Faith is an entirely other matter. This is actually mainstream Christianity sentiment now. Hope this can clear up your thoughts about Christians. If the faith heavy minority bothered you, that shouldn't paint a picture for the whole religion.

Satanism is complex. There's many different kinds of Satanist, from LaVeyan atheistic Satanism to theistic Satanism. I myself am a theistic Satanism, I believe Satan/Lucifer is a real being. He speaks to me through diverse manners and tells me all the truths and lies. He gives me magickal powers that christians and their religion, which I believe to be false, never even promises or gives you. Anything I want comes to me without effort. When I pray he listens, considers what I want, and then gives me what I need, unlike the christian God who you pray to and absolutely nothing happens, and you look for the smallest things which could be considered "signs" that he answered your prayer, or atleast that's what I did when I tried being christian. How many time have you known christians, in real life or movies, to say "Give me a sign" then they take something small and insignificant as a sign when it's really just an irrelivant circumstance. When you ask Satan for a sign, you better believe you will get a sign, and you will know 100% that it is a sign from Satan directly to you. So, I've gone a bit off topic, just slightly, let's get back to Satanism, not the glory of Satan... Atheistic satanism is based upon the Satanic bible. Anton LaVey was himself actually a theistic Satanist who believed Satan to be a real being, it's quite obvious that's true if you study him. He created the Satanic bible to make Satanism mainstream. he made it atheistic so it would be accepted. He gave all the glory to Satan he could without directly expressing that Satan is a real being that will bless your life in ways you cannot imagine. LeVayan Satanism has MUCH better morals then christianity in my opinion, is relatively free of contradictions unlike the christian bible. It is a very good and respectable religion. 

Getting high and hearing what you want to hear isn't anything religious. You completely don't get the point of Christian prayer. It is meant for God to listen and for you to acknowledge that he is there. But he is supposed to do nothing. If God gave us anything we wanted then that cheapens life and is an easy way out. You want good things in life then you gotta earn it. God and prayer is meant to give to the RESOLVE to follow through.

Now, let's talk about my beliefs, theistic Satanism. Theistic/Spiritual Satanism is based upon the ancient religions of mankind that predate judaism and christianity by hundreds to thousands of years. We revere and give glory to the oldest God in recorded history, the ancient Sumerian God known as Enki. En means Lord, and Ki means earth. He is Lord of the Earth. He was worshipped long before the judeo/christian lie YHWH. (Wikipedia Enki for proof) We as theistic Satanists believe Judaism/Christianity to be a lie spread by the Jews to remove occult and spiritual knowledge from the general populace and place power in the hands of a select "Chosen" few, to the detriment of all mankind. If you truly study history, it will be revealed to you that Enki is the worlds oldest God and the story of the bible and the Judeo/Christian God YHWH is a much newer and recently formed idea. Most of the stories of Genesis, the flood, adam and eve, confusion of the languages, were copied from the stories of Enki by the Hebrew people. All their doctrines, in my opinion, are about spiritual enslavement to the God YHWH and his son Jesus Christ, which I believe to be fictitious entities. It is quite obvious from history that Jesus never existed, if you study history it's very clear that the events of the new testament never took place. There was something like a 30-50 year gap to when the story of Jesus supposedly happened, and when the gospels were written. True open mindend non-literalist christian scholars know that the gospels were allegory of a mythical being, not a real story. The early christian church took the gospels and used them for their own goals, and presented them as fact when there is little to no real historical evidence that Jesus of Nazereth ever existed.

He is trhe oldest God, but you can't prove he is real. It is faith based, as is other religions. There is much evidence that he did exist actually. Whether or not he was divine is still up for argument. The gospels were written the day after Jesus dies. They took time to be written, and evenmore time to come to public light, as the Romans initially comdemned the Christian rise.

Let's talk about Christianity now. The basis of christianity is that you need the blood sacrifice of Jesus to save your soul from eternal hellfire. Well let me ask you this, what kind of God. curses his children for eating some magical fruit that HE KNEW they were going to eat. If he's really all knowing(which I think he isn't from studying the horrible advice that even christians don't follow that he gives in many parts of the bible) He would know Adam and Even were going to eat from the tree of knowledge. So he set them up to fail, and then he punishes all their descendants for something he knew they would do. That is no God I would want to revere or worship. Back on the topic of blood sacrifice, blood sacrifice is neither required or encouraged in the the worlds oldest and most valid religion, Satanism. Blood sacrifice is a concept from the Judeo/Christian bible: 

Adam and Eve isn't a real story, it is a fictional story meant to tell us the double-edge sword of free will. God gave us free will, and therefore the option to do things we aren't supposed to. Blood sacrifice isn't done in Christian churches anymore. Sunday masses have bread and wine. The religion evolved over 2000 years buddy.

The christian God also requires worship. Satan dislikes worship (yet you worship him). In fact it's strictly forbidden in The Black Book of Satan. It's said you should never worship any Gods. You do not need to slaughter animals like the Jews used to do to gain salvation and Good tidings. You don't need the blood or metaphorical sacrifice of some mythical man on a wooden cross to bring you salvation. I believe heaven is a lie spread by the Jews. I believe you do not need Jesus or any other God to save you. All you need to do to save yourself from "hell" (the cycle of reincarnation) is to progress spiritually enough that you reincarnate as a God in the next life. I believe no blood sacrifice of some man named Jesus can save you. In fact no God can save you. It is your own duty, in my opinion. You need to meditate, practise magick, study all the knowledge you can, and work out and progress your physical being. Doing all this will raise your spiritual power threshhold and greaten your chances of reincarnating into a God and saving yourself from the cycle of reincarnation. In my opinion, praying and giving yourself over and  essentialliy being a slave, to someone who is in my eyes a mythical figure, won't save you from anything. Nothing good comes without work. In my opinion NO ONE will forgive you for your sins, they will be a blight of bad karma upon your soul until you've paid your dues. The idea that you need blood sacrifice or help from some demi-god to save you is repulsive to me. The idea that all your sins can be forgiven just at the flick of a wrist of a God is immoral and complete irresponsible in my opion.

Reincarnation is a Hindu belief...now your all over the place. I control my own destiny. Going to church and saying an occasional prayer doesn't make you a slave. Your sins can be forgiven if you truly are sorry and make up for it however you can.

Your ignorance of ALL THE BAD STUFF in the bible is appalling. You cannot point out some of the good stuff it says and act like it represents the whole message. Here's the thing, EVEN SATAN SAYS there's good things in the bible, and all the good stuff about love and peace is in accord with Satans will, but whatever was changed from his message has been altered..

The Al Jilwah
The Black Book of Satan


Chapter I

I was, am now, and shall have no end. I exercise dominion over all creatures and over the affairs of all who are under the protection of my image. I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need. There is no place in the universe that knows not my presence. I participate in all the affairs, which those who are without call evil because their nature is not such as they approve. Every age has its own manager, who directs affairs according to my decrees. This office is changeable from generation to generation, that the ruler of this world and his chiefs may discharge the duties of their respective offices everyone in his own turn. I allow everyone to follow the dictates of his own nature, but he that opposes me will regret it sorely. 

Oh boy here we go...I say this with no disrespect, but you don't have the slightest clue what your talking about in relation to LeVayan Satanism. First of all, Anton wrote a book, one that embraced the carnal nature of human beings. To some of us, that book made perfect sense, because it resonated with something that we knew to be true all along, that human beings should not live in abstinence of their own desires and as a matter of fact are at their best when they are allowed to indudge their desires.

The problem with mindless engaging in one's own desires is that these desires end up resulting in bad consequences.  Lack of self-control causes harm, and to just give in is a problem.   Yes, it sounds nice, but then you face the hangover, the bill, or other consequences you need to clean up, or you leave for someone else to do.  Humans are carnal, but this carnality is finite.  

You are wrong and that point has been adressed previously.

First off, the guy was not trying to discuss what the bible was saying. His argument was about OP being evil, but could still be saved if he accepted christianity. The way he went about this was to quote the bible as authority. And that's probably also the single context he had. So I fail to see the point you're making about Washington.

You need to realize that there are different branches of satanism, and while the atheistic one which you described 

"You claimed you have committed the unforgivable sin, I.E. blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Fortunately for you, it is said in 1 John 1:9, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."" QUote

he was response to claims the evil banana said that bible said like blasphem and many others if you read the whole thing. He was attacking the issues banana said about what the bible says.what he said had nothing to do with him being evil from what I read. The evilbanana claimed claimed he committed blasphem and then he showed he didn't by quoting what the bible says on how commit it.

" obviously not the one that OP is describing, and the enki (?) branch might have it's own holy texts" the only book I found was the black pope if  there no other holy book with this guy hasn't said otherwise then they are just deis which again goes to my point.

thunderfoot used academic record (h-index which isn't academic record but simply cititions) used for scientist based on how many times you are quoted  from your works but what he will not tell you is that you can quote yourself and you will increase in the system there was report on this.

http://blogs.nature.com/nautilus/2007/10/the_hindex_has_its_flaws.html

William lane craig is philosopher and not scientist so why would his work be citied more than an actual scientist in whatever field thunderfoot is in?

Do you know how h-index works?may be the most popular branch, it's obviously not the one that OP is describing, and the enki (?) branch might have it's own holy texts.

Just a quickie on William Lane Craig. Some youtuber called Thunderf00t has already shown that WLC's academic record isn't all that great, (worse than thunderf00ts). Also, there is a reason why WLC's domain is philosophy and not say, string theory or astrology. The inductive reasoning that he uses for his cosmological argument is similar to the reasoning used by 19th century physicits when they predicted that light would be measured as slightly slower and slightly faster when moving along or against the earths orbit, and they got their asses handed to them by the experimental data showing that the speed of light is absolute. I don't even understand how his premise of "All objects have a cause" can be framed in physics theory. If WLC has even seen what a mindfuck quantum mechanics and string theory is, I doubt he'd be so confident in his arguments.