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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

The system IS broken, but this crummy review is not the problem. The problem is gross score inflation, not one low-ball review. And the problem is also the weird belief from fans that anything below a 80/100 is a mediocre score. We as fans are part of this problem. I've seen posts in this thread saying Halo 4 can't possibly be lower than a 80. Well, yes it can. It could be worse. It could be a bad game. We need to drop our own unreasonable expectations, and maybe critics will start to grade games more realistically. Ideally, it would be the other way around -- critics would inform their readers -- but I don't have much faith in that scenario.


Did you read it? 

I did not read it. I try never to read reviews before I play a game or watch a movie, because I'm deathly afraid of spoilers.

But I still believe what I wrote. What are your thoughts on this subject?



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now down to down to 87 thanks to this

http://www.gamearena.com.au/xbox360/games/title/halo-4/reviews.php

here's a line from it

"The greatest praise and strongest criticism I can level at Halo 4 is that it sure is Halo."

-_-



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if you look at that reviewers list of least rated games on metacritic you can clearly see they downrate really big name games in the hopes of getting some traffic of people clicking their review just to call them idiots. Don't fall for the trap by clicking their site or reading their dribble, it's all they want by granting such a big game such an off the wall score.

Even clicking to their site just to call them idiots is giving them advertising revenue, just ignore and move on.



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GameOver22 said:
JustThatGamer said:
Tom Chick, proof that some peoples 'opinions' can be wrong.

A review is meant to be as objective as possible, it's meant to tell you if the game's glitchy, long, short, varied, polished etc. Sure some things like the story, fun-factor, sound etc, will always be subjective but the majority of a review should be stating facts about the game and what the effects of them e.g. framerate, game length, play-ability, camera perspective and so on.

People who have read the review and defend it as the critics 'opinion' are moronic, what part of that awful review actually informed anyone about the game? Zilch. Why Metacritic uses a publication who's reviews are consistently poorly written and always troll popular and acclaimed games for hits is beyond me. GameRankings doesn't use shitty sites and is better for a ton of other reasons to boot, if you like accuracy and quality use that site instead.

Problem is, a lot of those things you mention are subjective. I'll give you framerate, game length, and camera perspective as objective. Variety, polish, and play-ability, at least to me, are incredibly subjective and depends on what your background and expectation are. Further, while framerate might be objective, how this plays into a review score is subjective. If a game has minor framerate problems, how should this impact the score? 0.2 points, 0.5 points, 1 point, no points? Point is, while framerate issues can be objectively measured, the framerate problems might affect different people's assessment more than others.

Reviews are subjective. They depend on someone taking a position (an opinion) and making an argument for that position. Not to mention, they have to do this in incredibly limited word space, meaning they will not be capable of fully explicating their argument, hence, some of the ambiguity in reviews. Personally, I don't want a review to give me a bunch of objective facts. Not only would it be boring to read, but it would be incredibly limited in its scope. Point is, tell me whether the gameplay is good and how it compares to its competitors. I don't need to know for instance, "When you squeeze the right trigger, your equipped gun fires bullets at a rate of one clip per 4 seconds." That would be quite objective, but it doesn't really provide me with much info about the quality of the game.

Look at it this way.

I hate sushi. I've tried it many times, but always hate it. I like cooked fish dishes, but I don't like sushi.

Stay with me.

If I wrote a review for a sushi restaurant, should I let my hate of sushi effect the review? No, I shouldn't even write the review. I should hand it off to someone else who at the very has nothing against sushi. My opinion of any sushi restaurant would be that the food is terrible, no matter how much that same sushi is loved buy sushi lovers. What point would my review of a sushi restaurant even serve?

Now back to games.

If a reviewer doesn't like Halo games, why would his review be taken seriously? It's not that his opinion or taste in games is invalid. It's that his dislike of the game series makes the opinion worthless to the reader. A review should include the reviewers opinion, but it shouldn't get in the way of informing the reader about the pros/cons that only an unbiased mind can conclude. A Halo hater is always going to hate the latest Halo game. Nobody needs a review like that.

Halo 4 is not a bad game therefor it should not be considered garbage by anyone other than those who hate it's style like I hate sushi. And just like I shouldn't rate sushi a Halo hater shouldn't review Halo 4.



kain_kusanagi said:

Look at it this way.

I hate sushi. I've tried it many times, but always hate it. I like cooked fish dishes, but I don't like sushi.

Stay with me.

If I wrote a review for a sushi restaurant, should I let my hate of sushi effect the review? No, I shouldn't even write the review. I should hand it off to someone else who at the very has nothing against sushi. My opinion of any sushi restaurant would be that the food is terrible, no matter how much that same sushi is loved buy sushi lovers. What point would my review of a sushi restaurant even serve?

Now back to games.

If a reviewer doesn't like Halo games, why would his review be taken seriously? It's not that his opinion or taste in games is invalid. It's that his dislike of the game series makes the opinion worthless to the reader. A review should include the reviewers opinion, but it shouldn't get in the way of informing the reader about the pros/cons that only an unbiased mind can conclude. A Halo hater is always going to hate the latest Halo game. Nobody needs a review like that.

Halo 4 is not a bad game therefor it should not be considered garbage by anyone other than those who hate it's style like I hate sushi. And just like I shouldn't rate sushi a Halo hater shouldn't review Halo 4.

I agree with the sentitment, but I don't think there is any such thing as an unbiased mind. I struggle with the idea that someone who dislikes something can't or shouldn't review it. It depends on the audience you are writing for. Personally, I think reviews should be more skeptical and intended for an extended audience. Point black, a Halo review should not be written for a Halo fan since they are going to buy the game anyway. It should be written for the people who are unsure about the purchase and need some further information. In some cases, this might include people who dislike past Halo games.



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i know people are upset at the score and all, and from what i seen no way halo 4 is a 2 out of 10. but just because one person thinks so doesnt mean we have to ban the site from metacritic. honestly if we keep doing so reviews will mean nothing in the future because all we will get are high review scores for our favorite franchises no matter how bad or good the game really is



bananaking21 said:
i know people are upset at the score and all, and from what i seen no way halo 4 is a 2 out of 10. but just because one person thinks so doesnt mean we have to ban the site from metacritic. honestly if we keep doing so reviews will mean nothing in the future because all we will get are high review scores for our favorite franchises no matter how bad or good the game really is


They are troll reviewers. They always give low scores for popular games, like uncharted 3, halo, probably a bunch of others I haven't cared to look at.



bananaking21 said:
i know people are upset at the score and all, and from what i seen no way halo 4 is a 2 out of 10. but just because one person thinks so doesnt mean we have to ban the site from metacritic. honestly if we keep doing so reviews will mean nothing in the future because all we will get are high review scores for our favorite franchises no matter how bad or good the game really is


No..its not all about the score BUT the content of their review. 

Im tired at getting angry at EGM, Quarter to three and gamearena. Im just gonna go play halo. 



Yay!!!

The guy did not give the game a 20/100

He gave it a 1 star:

Read his FAQ about his responses to Journey.
http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2012/03/24/the-official-journey-review-faq/



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
The guy did not give the game a 20/100

He gave it a 1 star:

Read his FAQ about his responses to Journey.
http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2012/03/24/the-official-journey-review-faq/


1/5 = 2/10 = 20/100



Yay!!!