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samuship on 04 November 2012

Or even better: try to imagine that Nintendo is a Maharajah. Only the followers can understand the true meaning.



We need moar Zelda, now!

We need moar Unchartedzz!

We need less DLCs.

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fedfed on 05 November 2012

I do not get teh all thread am I missing something?



Switch!!!

amp316 on 05 November 2012

The Wii third party support was those six grapes.



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DanneSandin on 05 November 2012
amp316 said:
The Wii third party support was those six grapes.

Haha well put amp!!



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HappySqurriel on 05 November 2012
Squilliam said:
spurgeonryan said:
Nintendo does take on too much for us. I am glad people are starting to notice! What does tongue cheek mean? Are you saying Nintendo is lying?

No it means that I'm saying something which could be construed as offensive but also saying that I mean no offense, I.E. I'm kidding.

Nintendo has a perspective and the rest of us also have a perspective. What is a big deal for them (squeezing heaps of performance out of a small case) seems like a small issue for an outsider (why not just make the case 50% larger by volume and consume twice as much power). Because for core gamers the games machine is an important part of their life they don't see it as being a big deal if it was slightly larger whereas for a casual gamer having a big huge box in their TV cabinet next to their diminuitive DVD player is a huge deal.

The Xbox 360 and PS3 are small compared to this:

 

But are huge compared to this:

So they compensate by trying to do the job of the latter to justify their presence/size in the living room.


There is no doubt that Nintendo has a different perspective on most things than Sony and/or Microsoft, but it would be difficult to argue that most people were more in line with Sony and Microsoft's perspective ... The big, expensive, and high energy consumption consoles that Microsoft and Sony produced in the last generation sold relatively poorly; and after they released slim versions at a lower price that used less energy their sales improved.

Nintendo may take the size, energy consumption, and cost too far in one direction but that doesn't (necessarily) mean that they're wrong in general.

Personally, I've wondered why Nintendo didn't choose to use a slot loading optical disc drive that was based on laptop drives rather than desktop drives with the Wii and Wii U; in both cases it should be able to increase the amount of space around the CPU/GPU to put on a bigger heat sink and with a moderate increase in air flow they should be able to run a modestly more powerful chip.



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Red4ADevil on 05 November 2012

Don't worry Nintendo, one grape at a time.



Pavolink on 05 November 2012
amp316 said:
The Wii third party support was those six grapes.


:'(



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TripleMMM on 05 November 2012

Gnac's post coupled with his avatar made me blow my mouth with laughter! XD



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Mr Khan on 05 November 2012

Six Grapes? Nintendo, you should just give up now and buy a rascal because you're just going to be fat as fuck.



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Squilliam on 06 November 2012
HappySqurriel said:
Squilliam said:
spurgeonryan said:
Nintendo does take on too much for us. I am glad people are starting to notice! What does tongue cheek mean? Are you saying Nintendo is lying?

No it means that I'm saying something which could be construed as offensive but also saying that I mean no offense, I.E. I'm kidding.

Nintendo has a perspective and the rest of us also have a perspective. What is a big deal for them (squeezing heaps of performance out of a small case) seems like a small issue for an outsider (why not just make the case 50% larger by volume and consume twice as much power). Because for core gamers the games machine is an important part of their life they don't see it as being a big deal if it was slightly larger whereas for a casual gamer having a big huge box in their TV cabinet next to their diminuitive DVD player is a huge deal.

The Xbox 360 and PS3 are small compared to this:

 

But are huge compared to this:

So they compensate by trying to do the job of the latter to justify their presence/size in the living room.


There is no doubt that Nintendo has a different perspective on most things than Sony and/or Microsoft, but it would be difficult to argue that most people were more in line with Sony and Microsoft's perspective ... The big, expensive, and high energy consumption consoles that Microsoft and Sony produced in the last generation sold relatively poorly; and after they released slim versions at a lower price that used less energy their sales improved.

Nintendo may take the size, energy consumption, and cost too far in one direction but that doesn't (necessarily) mean that they're wrong in general.

Personally, I've wondered why Nintendo didn't choose to use a slot loading optical disc drive that was based on laptop drives rather than desktop drives with the Wii and Wii U; in both cases it should be able to increase the amount of space around the CPU/GPU to put on a bigger heat sink and with a moderate increase in air flow they should be able to run a modestly more powerful chip.

Big, expensive, noisy and unreliable are the cons from the early part of the generation, 150W+ is not a mass market consumer electronics power level. I do agree that Nintendo probably has taken the power consumption too low from a general market perspective but I suspect within their niche it is about right. They want to convince people who wouldn't otherwise consider owning a console to buy theirs and for non-gamers something which sticks out like a macho home electronics device would probably be too much of a hurdle to get over.

I suspect the reason why they used a desktop drive is cost. It is simpler to use a full sized drive and probably more reliable than something which is designed to fit tighter constraints, simple engineering trade-offs.



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