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smroadkill15 on 04 November 2012

@JinxRake

Great read, and I agree with everything you mentioned. I would give you a thumbs up if there was an option :P



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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 04 November 2012

@JinxRake

You made very very good points. +1 from me



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Nsanity on 04 November 2012
Bristow9091 said:
The game gets scores a 7 from this guy and people rage and insult him?

Does not compute.

Its about the reviewer bashing Halo 4 for not having Iron Sights and wanting it linear and scripted like Call Of Duty.



Mr Khan on 04 November 2012
KylieDog said:
Just because some people like outdated mechanics and design does not change the fact they are outdated.

If you like Halo's old gameplay, good for you because Halo 4 apparently has more for it, if you wanted it to evolve, thank this guy for warning you it doesn't.

Who is to say that outdated is necessarily bad? Just because CoD is newer and currently hot, we assume that it's inherently better?



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JinxRake on 04 November 2012
KylieDog said:
Mr Khan said:
KylieDog said:
Just because some people like outdated mechanics and design does not change the fact they are outdated.

If you like Halo's old gameplay, good for you because Halo 4 apparently has more for it, if you wanted it to evolve, thank this guy for warning you it doesn't.

Who is to say that outdated is necessarily bad? Just because CoD is newer and currently hot, we assume that it's inherently better?


People really stop comparing everyting to CoD, iron sights aren't even close to being a CoD inspired feature and everytime I hear it I just assuming the defence of Halo just comes from inexperience with many other FPS games.  Iron sights are one of many features added to FPS games over the years that has improved gameplay, allowing for more balance options and more depth of gameplay.  FPS games never used to have reloading, magazine sizes, bullet spray, gravity affecting bullets, bullet travel time, recoil, scope sway, crouching or prone, damage scaling depending where hit an enemy and many more features including iron sights.  They've all made FPS games better and CoD never created any of them.

Halo 4 is missing a basic feature that countless games have proved adds to gameplay (focus on 'adds', because every game with irons sights let you shoot like Halo 4 does still).  Halo 4 is missing a major feature, it isn't taking a different approach.

I like how you ignore everything I've postulated previously. Nice touch. Need I start repeating that?



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Lostplanet22 on 04 November 2012
JinxRake said:
KylieDog said:
Mr Khan said:
KylieDog said:
Just because some people like outdated mechanics and design does not change the fact they are outdated.

If you like Halo's old gameplay, good for you because Halo 4 apparently has more for it, if you wanted it to evolve, thank this guy for warning you it doesn't.

Who is to say that outdated is necessarily bad? Just because CoD is newer and currently hot, we assume that it's inherently better?


People really stop comparing everyting to CoD, iron sights aren't even close to being a CoD inspired feature and everytime I hear it I just assuming the defence of Halo just comes from inexperience with many other FPS games.  Iron sights are one of many features added to FPS games over the years that has improved gameplay, allowing for more balance options and more depth of gameplay.  FPS games never used to have reloading, magazine sizes, bullet spray, gravity affecting bullets, bullet travel time, recoil, scope sway, crouching or prone, damage scaling depending where hit an enemy and many more features including iron sights.  They've all made FPS games better and CoD never created any of them.

Halo 4 is missing a basic feature that countless games have proved adds to gameplay (focus on 'adds', because every game with irons sights let you shoot like Halo 4 does still).  Halo 4 is missing a major feature, it isn't taking a different approach.

I like how you ignore everything I've postulated previously. Nice touch. Need I start repeating that?

Yes please :).

 

It is kind of funny how you have gamers here who complain how Halo is simply the game over and over again...While on the Halo forums generation of gamers are fighting over how Halo X is better because in Halo Y they have changed so much that ruined the franchised..



 

pitzy272 on 04 November 2012

I just think the outrage over his review is ridiculous. Just on Metacritic, there are 11 different reviews that give Halo 4 an 80; yet his 70 score is considered completely unreasonable.

I feel quite confident that there will be at least one other score in the 70's, and there will be several other reviewers that give the game an 80.



nanarchy on 04 November 2012
pitzy272 said:
I just think the outrage over his review is ridiculous. Just on Metacritic, there are 11 different reviews that give Halo 4 an 80; yet his 70 score is considered completely unreasonable.

I feel quite confident that there will be at least one other score in the 70's, and there will be several other reviewers that give the game an 80.


People aren't raging at a 70 score, people are raging at him suggesting it fails because it is not more like COD. personally I will reserve judgement till after I play it, but really the review is pretty damn dumb, why would you want to turn something different into another generic run of the mill FPS. people love Halo because it is NOT COD like.



PearlJam on 04 November 2012

So giving it a lower score because it's not Call of Duty is rational?



smroadkill15 on 04 November 2012
KylieDog said:
JinxRake said:
KylieDog said:
Mr Khan said:
KylieDog said:
Just because some people like outdated mechanics and design does not change the fact they are outdated.

If you like Halo's old gameplay, good for you because Halo 4 apparently has more for it, if you wanted it to evolve, thank this guy for warning you it doesn't.

Who is to say that outdated is necessarily bad? Just because CoD is newer and currently hot, we assume that it's inherently better?


People really stop comparing everyting to CoD, iron sights aren't even close to being a CoD inspired feature and everytime I hear it I just assuming the defence of Halo just comes from inexperience with many other FPS games.  Iron sights are one of many features added to FPS games over the years that has improved gameplay, allowing for more balance options and more depth of gameplay.  FPS games never used to have reloading, magazine sizes, bullet spray, gravity affecting bullets, bullet travel time, recoil, scope sway, crouching or prone, damage scaling depending where hit an enemy and many more features including iron sights.  They've all made FPS games better and CoD never created any of them.

Halo 4 is missing a basic feature that countless games have proved adds to gameplay (focus on 'adds', because every game with irons sights let you shoot like Halo 4 does still).  Halo 4 is missing a major feature, it isn't taking a different approach.

I like how you ignore everything I've postulated previously. Nice touch. Need I start repeating that?


You typed a lot but said very little, you certainly didn't address the point.  Modern combat mechanics are part of nearly every game, CoD, BF, MoH, Resistance, Killzone and so forth, pretty much every popular FPS title.  This includes those mechanics in Halo, however, Halo does not have the combat mechanics most modern games have. 

Adding Iron sights isn't going to radically change Halo 4 gameplay which is the argument people trying to hide behind, is just a basic feature of modern FPS titles that gives extra options during gameplay.   Games that use Iron sights to give a steadier aim and so forth have chosen to do that, there are FPS games out there that have Iron sights but it doesn't change the mechanics of shooting at all and thus doesn't change the gameplay.

Halo 4 is missing a basic feature, not because it is preserving gameplay, but because it just outdated in that mechanic.

Out of all those games you mentioned, how many score as well or sell as much as Halo does? Cod, and that's it. Just because those games have more modern mechanics doesn't make them better games. I don't want Halo to be like every other generic shooter out there.

If they do add iron sights it would change Halo way more than you think, and fans would be pissed. Halo is suppose to be an arcade arena type shooter. If I wanted to play Cod or BF, I'll play those games. I play Halo because it's Halo.