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crissindahouse said:

i think they wouldn't have to change the ads, if people see the ads they would know that's the price without tax (it's not as if they don't already have the problem even with taxless price tags) but instead of never telling the customers how much they really have to pay until they stand at the check-out they could get the information when they see the product on the shelf. that's much better for people who are just on a shoppig tour which should be a much higher percentage as people who want to buy something they saw in an ad  and it's especially much better for people who come from another city/state/country with another tax and want to buy something.

give the customer the price he has to pay and when he pays for it he will get a receipt with all informations about how much of the price is tax and everything and not "give the customer the price without tax and he will know what he has to pay when he already has his credit card in his hands"^^

but if tax really changes every few months and not only once every few years this could be really a reason because that would be too much stciker prices too change all the time.

So you're saying it's OK to advertise the untaxed price but the sticker price at the store needs to already have the tax price included?

Sounds to me like that would confuse the hell out of people.  "I saw the price for $100 in the newspaper so why does it say $107 on the box?"

And our recepts do show a full breakdown of the taxes.  Like I said, most people are already well accustomed to calculatig the tax in their head.   They know it says $100 they'll likely pay $107.   If it's $200, they'll likely pay $214.

I think they don't put the taxed price on the stickers so as not to confuse people from the advertised price.  



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Viper1 said:
crissindahouse said:

i think they wouldn't have to change the ads, if people see the ads they would know that's the price without tax (it's not as if they don't already have the problem even with taxless price tags) but instead of never telling the customers how much they really have to pay until they stand at the check-out they could get the information when they see the product on the shelf. that's much better for people who are just on a shoppig tour which should be a much higher percentage as people who want to buy something they saw in an ad  and it's especially much better for people who come from another city/state/country with another tax and want to buy something.

give the customer the price he has to pay and when he pays for it he will get a receipt with all informations about how much of the price is tax and everything and not "give the customer the price without tax and he will know what he has to pay when he already has his credit card in his hands"^^

but if tax really changes every few months and not only once every few years this could be really a reason because that would be too much stciker prices too change all the time.

So you're saying it's OK to advertise the untaxed price but the sticker price at the store needs to already have the tax price included?

Sounds to me like that would confuse the hell out of people.  "I saw the price for $100 in the newspaper so why does it say $107 on the box?"

And our recepts do show a full breakdown of the taxes.  Like I said, most people are already well accustomed to calculatig the tax in their head.   They know it says $100 they'll likely pay $107.   If it's $200, they'll likely pay $214.

I think they don't put the taxed price on the stickers so as not to confuse people from the advertised price.  

Exactly, since taxes vary from state to state and even county to county, saying it will cost, "$207" may not even be true. To keep the confusion down, the compaines use a set price and allow each state to apply tax to the MSRP (manufacture suggested retail price) of the product. This keeps the manufacturer from being liable when they state a price and it applies in one state but not another state. Saying $199.99 suggests that is what the manufacturer is selling thee item at, and the state/county/whatever will apply THEIR taxes to the product.



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Viper1 said:
crissindahouse said:

i think they wouldn't have to change the ads, if people see the ads they would know that's the price without tax (it's not as if they don't already have the problem even with taxless price tags) but instead of never telling the customers how much they really have to pay until they stand at the check-out they could get the information when they see the product on the shelf. that's much better for people who are just on a shoppig tour which should be a much higher percentage as people who want to buy something they saw in an ad  and it's especially much better for people who come from another city/state/country with another tax and want to buy something.

give the customer the price he has to pay and when he pays for it he will get a receipt with all informations about how much of the price is tax and everything and not "give the customer the price without tax and he will know what he has to pay when he already has his credit card in his hands"^^

but if tax really changes every few months and not only once every few years this could be really a reason because that would be too much stciker prices too change all the time.

So you're saying it's OK to advertise the untaxed price but the sticker price at the store needs to already have the tax price included?

Sounds to me like that would confuse the hell out of people.  "I saw the price for $100 in the newspaper so why does it say $107 on the box?"

And our recepts do show a full breakdown of the taxes.  Like I said, most people are already well accustomed to calculatig the tax in their head.   They know it says $100 they'll likely pay $107.   If it's $200, they'll likely pay $214.

I think they don't put the taxed price on the stickers so as not to confuse people from the advertised price.  

but it's less confusion to see the price on the sticker and have to pay another price when they have their credit card in their hands 30 seconds later? both would confuse people if you really think that could confuse them but one would be much fairer because people who are not from there simply don't know the tax and don't have that calculation in their head like people who live there and there are also people who are not even able to calculate the most simple math so it would be also much better and fairer for them.

 

 



GhaudePhaede010 said:
 

Exactly, since taxes vary from state to state and even county to county, saying it will cost, "$207" may not even be true. To keep the confusion down, the compaines use a set price and allow each state to apply tax to the MSRP (manufacture suggested retail price) of the product. This keeps the manufacturer from being liable when they state a price and it applies in one state but not another state. Saying $199.99 suggests that is what the manufacturer is selling thee item at, and the state/county/whatever will apply THEIR taxes to the product.

like i said to viper, if you know that ads are without tax there is only as much confusion for you as if you see it on a price tag without and have to pay then a price you don't really know before (even if you know your tax most won't really know the exact price, not to talk about everyone who doesn't live there and want to buy something there)

no clue why ow both of you think people wouldn't understand that price tags have tax included but ads not but they understand that price tags have no tax included but they guy on the check.out tells you another price with tax then...



crissindahouse said:

but it's less confusion to see the price on the sticker and have to pay another price when they have their credit card in their hands 30 seconds later? both would confuse people if you really think that could confuse them but one would be much fairer because people who are not from there simply don't know the tax and don't have that calculation in their head like people who live there and there are also people who are not even able to calculate the most simple math so it would be also much better and fairer for them.

Perhaps had they started the system that way in the beginning, it would make sense.

Trying to it change it now would be disastrous.



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Viper1 said:
crissindahouse said:

but it's less confusion to see the price on the sticker and have to pay another price when they have their credit card in their hands 30 seconds later? both would confuse people if you really think that could confuse them but one would be much fairer because people who are not from there simply don't know the tax and don't have that calculation in their head like people who live there and there are also people who are not even able to calculate the most simple math so it would be also much better and fairer for them.

Perhaps had they started the system that way in the beginning, it would make sense.

Trying to it change it now would be disastrous.

yeah ok i understand that i just don't understand why it wasn't always like this.



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crissindahouse said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:
 

Exactly, since taxes vary from state to state and even county to county, saying it will cost, "$207" may not even be true. To keep the confusion down, the compaines use a set price and allow each state to apply tax to the MSRP (manufacture suggested retail price) of the product. This keeps the manufacturer from being liable when they state a price and it applies in one state but not another state. Saying $199.99 suggests that is what the manufacturer is selling thee item at, and the state/county/whatever will apply THEIR taxes to the product.

like i said to viper, if you know that ads are without tax there is only as much confusion for you as if you see it on a price tag without and have to pay then a price you don't really know before (even if you know your tax most want really know the exact price not to talk about everyone who doesn#t live there and will buy something there)

no clue why ow both of you think people wouldn't understand that price tags have tax included but ads not but they understand that price tags have no tax included but they guy on the check.out tells you another price with tax then...


Huh? What you just posted is a bit confusing to me. What I am saying is, the MSRP of a product in America is always without tax. Sure, stores could apply tax for you but it would then be no different than going to the register and having the tax applied for you, only a couple seconds later. Since tax vaires from state to state, there is no way for a company to list the product other than what their suggested price of thee item is. Once you see the manufacturer's price, you understand there is to be a certain amount added in taxes depending on where you live.

I am not saying people would not understand, I am saying it would be of little difference since the tax addition will be there for you in the store either way. One way, you are at the register, thee other, you are looking at the box. Then it comes down to retailers, saying it cost, "$207" even though you added tax already while having another store list the price at thee MSRP of "$199" may make you look more expensive even though you may not be. This would also create confusion for the customer so here, all we do is list thee MSRP and allow the state and stores to handle tax the way they see best fit.



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GhaudePhaede010 said:

Tell that to my daughter, Iyolah. She died before ever paying a single tax dollar.


Man, that is horrible.  I've watched some of your videos on youtube (still eating Ramen like a mad man, thanks to your technique--I used to leave all of the water in it.) and you have some beautiful children.  I only have one child and I don't think I would live another day if she ever....My heart goes out to you.



oni-link said:
Galaki said:
Total Before Tax: CDN$ 349.99
GST: CDN$ 45.50

The tax is enough to buy a new game :(

BTW, amazon.ca taking pre-order.


wow...and the 3DS isn't $170, the PSV isn't $299, and the X360 and PS3 isn't $299 either.  C'mon only 2 things sure in life are death and taxes!


sad thing is I'm not sure if this persons seriously saying this or stating the obvious. Btw, atleast where i am, PSV is 249, 360 is 249, ps3 is 249. Yes basically all priced the same