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I do think (somewhat sadly) that MS is going to win the next gen cycle.

Nintendo doesn't have the same blue ocean appeal going for them this time and they just don't seem as on top of their game.

Sony can't afford to go toe-to-toe with MS for too long IMO. MS is simply going to outspend them on hardware, marketing, and exclusives. Whatever it takes to win.



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DanneSandin said:
This is clearly a fan boy article. Just read this again: "This is the first generation Sony has entered without winning in sales figures. With that said, Nintendo has “won” this generation (SALES WISE) and Microsoft and Sony fall 30-35 million units behind."

The writer clearly has something against the Wii. Wii won HW wise, AND money wise. I think it's apparent that the writer isn't considering Wii as the "true" winner. But anywho. He isn't either giving a reason as to why he think x3ox will win next gen. Or did I miss something?

This is a godawful piece of shit.


He said the Wii won sales wise.(number of units sold)

Are you okay?



badgenome said:
How the fuck did Microsoft "lose" this gen?


1. HD-DVD was being pushed by Microsoft, lost to Blu-Ray.

2. RROD cost Microsoft over $1 Billion.

3. The Xbox 360 sold less than the Wii.



VGKing said:

1. HD-DVD was being pushed by Microsoft, lost to Blu-Ray.

2. RROD cost Microsoft over $1 Billion.

3. The Xbox 360 sold less than the Wii.

1. Doesn't matter.

2. Yes. And they still made money.

3. They vastly improved their situation over last gen, took over America, stole every former Sony exclusive worth stealing, and made a lot of money in the process. They surely did not lose.



badgenome said:
Mazty said:

Links? Sony losing money isn't the same as the PS3/bluray being destructive just incase that's your trail of thought. 

I'm not saying that, exactly. Just that Blu-ray is no DVD, and Microsoft doesn't give one shit about HD-DVD losing.

Edit: Guess it was just the PS2 profits. Sony's okay!

Nice presumtions. 

Where'd you get that chart from btw? Plus you can't attribute that souly to the PS3 - you forget the lacklustre launch titles etc. 

Blu-ray is replacing DVD and I'm pretty certain MS aren't pleased about using their direct competitions media format. Saying they don't care just is an absurd, unsubstantiated comment with no basis in reality. 



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sales2099 said:
Mazty said:
sales2099 said:
MS didn't lose....well 2nd place isnt last. But gen over gen the Xbox brand just seems to be going up. You could say its the best selling HD console.

Article didn't explain how next gen would turn out lol. But I imagine MS momentum will keep going strong.


Adjusted for the release date and it's the worst selling HD console...

Thats Sony fan propaganda....because we dont live in an alternate universe where they launched at the same time. That argument has been shut down year after year. You gotta take 2nd place the hard way....lifetime

Dude, thats reality, not propoganda...It shows the xbox has had the weaker sales of all the 3 consoles.  Unless you want to show a lack of understanding ecomoics. 



Mazty said:
sales2099 said:
Mazty said:
sales2099 said:
MS didn't lose....well 2nd place isnt last. But gen over gen the Xbox brand just seems to be going up. You could say its the best selling HD console.

Article didn't explain how next gen would turn out lol. But I imagine MS momentum will keep going strong.


Adjusted for the release date and it's the worst selling HD console...

Thats Sony fan propaganda....because we dont live in an alternate universe where they launched at the same time. That argument has been shut down year after year. You gotta take 2nd place the hard way....lifetime

Dude, thats reality, not propoganda...It shows the xbox has had the weaker sales of all the 3 consoles.  Unless you want to show a lack of understanding ecomoics. 

But luckily we go by lifetime sales.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

VGKing said:
badgenome said:
How the fuck did Microsoft "lose" this gen?


1. HD-DVD was being pushed by Microsoft, lost to Blu-Ray.

2. RROD cost Microsoft over $1 Billion.

3. The Xbox 360 sold less than the Wii

1. MS backed it but didn't invent it. That is a meaningless claim.

2. Sony lost far more money then MS did this gen.

3. You could say it was the best selling HD console.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 said:
Mazty said:
sales2099 said:
Mazty said:
sales2099 said:
MS didn't lose....well 2nd place isnt last. But gen over gen the Xbox brand just seems to be going up. You could say its the best selling HD console.

Article didn't explain how next gen would turn out lol. But I imagine MS momentum will keep going strong.


Adjusted for the release date and it's the worst selling HD console...

Thats Sony fan propaganda....because we dont live in an alternate universe where they launched at the same time. That argument has been shut down year after year. You gotta take 2nd place the hard way....lifetime

Dude, thats reality, not propoganda...It shows the xbox has had the weaker sales of all the 3 consoles.  Unless you want to show a lack of understanding ecomoics. 

But luckily we go by lifetime sales.

Says who? Only people who fail to understand economics would do such a thing. Plus either way with current sales, the PS3 will still overtake the xbox sales, even with the xbox having the lead. So your determination to skew the results are going to end up fruitless either way. 



Mazty said:
sales2099 said:
Mazty said:
sales2099 said:
Mazty said:
sales2099 said:
MS didn't lose....well 2nd place isnt last. But gen over gen the Xbox brand just seems to be going up. You could say its the best selling HD console.

Article didn't explain how next gen would turn out lol. But I imagine MS momentum will keep going strong.


Adjusted for the release date and it's the worst selling HD console...

Thats Sony fan propaganda....because we dont live in an alternate universe where they launched at the same time. That argument has been shut down year after year. You gotta take 2nd place the hard way....lifetime

Dude, thats reality, not propoganda...It shows the xbox has had the weaker sales of all the 3 consoles.  Unless you want to show a lack of understanding ecomoics. 

But luckily we go by lifetime sales.

Says who? Only people who fail to understand economics would do such a thing. Plus either way with current sales, the PS3 will still overtake the xbox sales, even with the xbox having the lead. So your determination to skew the results are going to end up fruitless either way. 

Says corporate fiscal reports of lifetime shipments and vgchartz main page. Total sold. You logic cant say "PS3 sold more consoles then Xbox 360". It would have to say "PS3 sold more consoles then Xbox 360....in the same timeframe". Thats just a nice way of saying "you came late to the party but its okay". 

It will happen eventually, but the idea is that by the time it does happen, all 3 next gen consoles will be out and it would essentially be a hollow victory.

Your confirming to me that many Sony fans would love to regress to their very genetics of praising sales. You have worshipped sales for 2 generations so its my theory your just ITCHING to play that card again. But for now, you get your fix referring to "comparative timeline sales". :P



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.