Agreed this is pointless since its shipped not sold.  Also 70 million is not a major milestone need to wait until it sells over 80 million.

And MS starts off with a handicap that is that Japanese hate American products.
I think it is really stupid to call someone a winner because of market share. Sony lost 6-7 billion USD with the PS3 and they MIGHT catch up to 2nd place, while MS made good profits with the Xbox 360. (EDD doesn't tell the whole story - Zune, Kin, Windows phone, Nokia, R&D fpr Xbox 3 all happened during this generation and it is about breaking even)

For the money Sony lost, MS would have been able to bundle more than 20 million consoles with every happy meal sold at MC Donalds. (6 billion / 299). And don't get me started with the Wii. That is why the winner (Wii) second place (Xbox 360) and 3rd place (PS3) are not a subject to change. For me and probably for everyone with common sense. Not for users on N4G and partially on VGC though.

And of course the profits are more important for the future of the brand. If Sony loses another 6 billion USD with the PS4 over the next 6 years, I doubt there will be a PS5. Even if they have a 50% market share.

- But it is active consoles that count!
- Software sells so much better on PS3!


Anyway...

Total software sold:

X360 668,304,416
PS3 583,952,866

Let the excuses begin!

Let me guess: One year less in the market.

Yes, yes it is.  Can you imagine if just sold say 20% of Consoles in Japan how well it would be doing?

Falcon was the first stable chip they produced at the end of 2007. Jasper just took the RROD risk even further down.

And yes MS lost about $2bn purely on RROD.

My point exactly. The first couple of revisions (pre-Jasper) had a 50-100% failure rate. The extended warranty did eventually end, and if your 360 died after that, you had to buy another one. I myself bought two Xbox 360s. However, this only increased the install base by one (because I don't buy two copies of the same game). I personally know several people who have purchased multiple 360s (some before the extended warranty, some ofther it ended). I bet that even in this thread right here there are several members who have bought more than one 360. Since the number of failed PS3s is without doubt smaller than that of 360, I am convinced that at this time the total install base of PS3 is ahead of 360. I'd wager any amount of money on this.

If that would have affected so much why is their still a big gap in software sales?  Or is that active installbase of PS3 not buying any of the so many awesome PS3 exclusives? 

Falcon failure rate was nowhere near 50%.

Thing is if you had an early 360, it was likely that it's going to break, probably even after only one year. MS repairs it for free, but the risk that it breaks again is just as high or even higher. It breaks again after 6 months, MS repairs it. It breaks again, MS can't repair it anymore (or rather it would cost more than giving you a replacement model) you get a new one. And so on.

The warranty lasted til November 2008 for the earliest models available. Jasper just came out at that time. So even the earliest adopters had a good chance to get a much more reliable Falcon 360 (My Falcon which is over 4 years old runs perfectly fine, even with 10+ hours gaming sessions and a total running time of several thousand if not ten thousand hours) as a replacement.

Now compare this to YLOD, which broke PS3s far far after the warranty ran out. All of them were either replaced by a new console (especially for the PS3 Slim), sent to Sony for a repair fee of I think $150 or simply dismissed.

I am not sure this still is true though.