Except that was Obsidian and not Bethesda.

kowenicki said: SOLIDSNAKE08 said: BenVTrigger said: Its not my opinion that the PS3s RAM is the problem with this game......its a known fact it has nothing to do with ram. skyrim aint that great, graphics are standard. these guys couldnt even run angry birds on ps3 smoothly. they have no idea how to develop on ps3, no interest in learning and couldnt give a fuck about any of their fans. Can you prove that? Sony were helping them fix it... So Sony's own programmers are clueless too then huh?      Sony 'working with' Bethesda to fix Skyrim Dawnguard PS3 DLC   "Everyone involved trying their best to get this stuff working," says Sony Share       +  Comments 37 By Mike Jackson for CVG UK Sony VP Adam Boyes has said the platform holder is working with Bethesda to overcome the issues impeding the release of Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim's Dawnguard expansion on PS3.   "We have a big, broad dev support team that works closely with Bethesda - and with all of our partners - to work with them to solve that any sort of issues they have along the way," Boyes told Kotaku when asked about game that's been plagued with issues on PS3 since launch.   "Of course, I always want everything to work always for everyone. I can't promise any kind of resolution or timeline but can say that everyone involved is trying their best to get this stuff working," he added. Reassuring words for PS3 gamers who are understandably frustrated at the lack of the Dawnguard DLC on Sony's console. Unfortunately, Bethesda says it won't release Dawnguard on PS3 until it's happy with how the content runs, and at the moment the developer says it's just "not satisfied yet".

no point in sony trying to help when they built the engine around the xbox 360 only. thats why skyrim has major issues on ps3. also read that post a page back. its nothing to do with the ps3, bethesda's words.

the only mistake those people did, was to buy a game done by a sub par developer...

(others) and dont come tell me that the problem is the console because there are a s*** load of great and huge games working just fine in the platform... only  bethesda have these kind of bronken software for sale.

i will end up buying dishonored but only when its around 12/15£ and because i know the game is done by other dev and has no issues... witch may take little time...

You know Vegas is developed in Fallout 3 engine developed by Bethesda... no?

Amen to that

I have been trying to explain things like this for years. People don't even try to look into the details.

so why is it Bethesda's fault that Fallout New Vegas is more buggy than Fallout 3 or Skyrim ?
Obviously Bethesda did a better job than Obsidian.
Also Bethesda didn't create the engine for Fallout 3 and Vegas, they just built upon the Gamebryo engine.

No, it doesn't.  The Xbox 360 has 512MB of RAM - 32MB for the OS.  That's up to 480MB of RAM that the game can take advantage of.  Granted, a game is likely going to be displaying graphics at the same time, so that 480MB will be used up some by graphics.  Nevertheless, the Xbox 360 offers flexibility of being able to use more memory than the PS3 is capable of offering.

The best the PS3's memory comes split, 256MB for the system (CPU) and 256MB for the video (GPU).  The OS consumes 50MB, which is technically split between the system and video (48/2?).  So at best the PS3 has 218MB of RAM to games.  That's it.  There is no borrowing from elsewhere.  The GPU can take advantage of the system memory, but the CPU can't take advantage of the video memory. 

So, please tell me how the Xbox 360 and the PS3 have the same amount of memory?  I haven't been in school for quite a while, so maybe they're teaching you "kids" a new kind of math, but when I was in school 480MB =/= 218MB.  Are you going to try and tell me that the PS3 uses some sort of memory compression?  That it shrinks normal sized 1's and 0's into much smaller, compact 1's and 0's so it can fit more of them in a smaller space?

No, they haven't.  Please offer specific citations where this has been an issue rather than just pulling something out of your ass and stating it as a fact.  Shit comes out of my ass every day, it doesn't make it a fact, it just means I take a shit every now and again.  Difference is I take my shits in a toilet, not on a forum.

Oblivion didn't have a single memory issue.  It had bugs, but to the best of my knowledge not a single one was an issue where there wasn't enough memory on the system.  I never heard of any memory issues with Morrowind or any of the other earlier games.  There weren't any memory issues with Fallout 3, or to my knowledge with Fallout New Vegas.  There have been several well documented physics engine bugs, one of the reason why Bethesda dropped the previous physics engine and wrote their own.   If there were memory problems they were memory leak issues, not a single one that I know of where there was insufficient memory on a system for the game to run.

I'm calling BS.

..."I'm calling BS" ^

...You call correctly.

You're kidding right?

All these games you listed are buggy plus Oblivion, Rage and others.

There are no problem the Gamebryo engine... the engine made over Gamebryo engine for all Fallout games after 3 is the issue...  Bethesda's fault.