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Ajescent said:
o_O.Q said:
tbh this gama DLC is basically a 360 exclusive lol

FIXed it for you

And let's be honest, you might be right.

I think he meant game.  Skyrim is still pretty awful on PS3 right?

Either way, if it's any consolation for some people here... the people on 360 are missing out on a lot of content that equals dozens of DLC packages.

PC is the way to go.



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Bristow9091 said:
They should release it as it is now and make it free

Like hell that's gonna happen, considering Bethesda waited about ayear before releasing F3 dlcs and released it at exactly the same price they did on the 360.



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this how skyrim is meant to be played

this is how console owners are playing it

what a disgrace



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Ajescent said:
o_O.Q said:
tbh this gama DLC is basically a 360 exclusive lol

FIXed it for you

And let's be honest, you might be right.

lol i mean't as a whole since the original game on ps3 was plagued with tons of problems too



o_O.Q said:
Ajescent said:
o_O.Q said:
tbh this gama DLC is basically a 360 exclusive lol

FIXed it for you

And let's be honest, you might be right.

lol i mean't as a whole since the original game on ps3 was plagued with tons of problems too

I apologise for the incorrect fix, in retrospect, you might be right.



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Bristow9091 said:
Dodece said:
@fauzman

Has it occurred to you that the world doesn't revolve around your console of choice. Despite what you may think most developers don't have a deep understanding of the PS3s architecture. Basically they have settled on a sort of compromise where they don't have to put up with its ass backwards nature. Instead they license middle ware to handle the grunt work. It is easy to license a game engine, and build on top of that.

Bethesda however doesn't do that. Maybe they want to get the most out of the machines, or maybe they want to do things that no existing engines support. Whatever the reason they are doing all of the work themselves. If you think it is easy you would be dead wrong. Even Epic which is probably the premiere engine developer had major delays in getting the Unreal engine to work on the PS3. If it was so hard for them. Then just imagine how hard it has to be for Bethesda.

You should be thankful that they bother, and you should be impressed by what they have accomplished. Having a hard time with real tricky hardware isn't a crime, and nobody should be shaming them for that. I for one support Bethesda, and their proprietary engine. I suspect that is part of why their games play and feel so vivid for the lack of a better word.

If losing that is what it takes for the PS3 to handle their games. Then I for one don't want them putting games out on the PS3. There is no reason that the PS3 should be hurting my gaming period end of story. I am not the one that made the wrong choice. That is your problem so deal with it.

... Well it's not our faults that some devs are too stuck up (Obviously Bethesda, thinking they're the gods of making games, when in all honesty, they're wank and their games are so overrated) to ask Sony devs for any help,

But they are the gods.

Dude, Skyrim is the best selling RPG that isn't Pokemon of all time.



Bristow9091 said:
Slimebeast said:

But they are the gods.

Dude, Skyrim is the best selling RPG that isn't Pokemon of all time.

And yet it's such a terrible game, in my opinion atleast, sales mean nothing, I mean, so many people hate Call of Duty games, yet look at its sales... 

Then what about the 95% Metacritic score? And 94% for their previous two games. Bethesda must be doing something right.



Dodece said:
@fauzman

Has it occurred to you that the world doesn't revolve around your console of choice. Despite what you may think most developers don't have a deep understanding of the PS3s architecture. Basically they have settled on a sort of compromise where they don't have to put up with its ass backwards nature. Instead they license middle ware to handle the grunt work. It is easy to license a game engine, and build on top of that.

Bethesda however doesn't do that. Maybe they want to get the most out of the machines, or maybe they want to do things that no existing engines support. Whatever the reason they are doing all of the work themselves. If you think it is easy you would be dead wrong. Even Epic which is probably the premiere engine developer had major delays in getting the Unreal engine to work on the PS3. If it was so hard for them. Then just imagine how hard it has to be for Bethesda.

You should be thankful that they bother, and you should be impressed by what they have accomplished. Having a hard time with real tricky hardware isn't a crime, and nobody should be shaming them for that. I for one support Bethesda, and their proprietary engine. I suspect that is part of why their games play and feel so vivid for the lack of a better word.

If losing that is what it takes for the PS3 to handle their games. Then I for one don't want them putting games out on the PS3. There is no reason that the PS3 should be hurting my gaming period end of story. I am not the one that made the wrong choice. That is your problem so deal with it.

THE world doesnt revolve around my console but MY world certainly does. Since I own only the 1 console, of course everything I play and do is gonna be coloured by that (I mean duh). I understand that the ps3 is a real pain to develop for. I still dont see how they release a game with a game-breaking bug. You see a lot of bugs in games but not ones that actually stop people playing like that. You cant tell me that Bethesda found the ps3 so tough that they missed such a huge bug or even worse found it but couldnt do anything about it (from what i understand Skyrim is working fine now due to the patches). All you are doing is making shoddy excuses for incompetence. 

On the other hand, it is good to see that Bethesda are trying to get it right with the expansion pack and taking the time, and Im glad to hear that sony are trying to help. 



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Bristow9091 said:

... Well it's not our faults that some devs are too stuck up (Obviously Bethesda, thinking they're the gods of making games, when in all honesty, they're wank and their games are so overrated) to ask Sony devs for any help, I mean fuck, if a dev team is having trouble making a game for the PS3 (And it's not most or all developers...), why not ask an experienced dev for help, especially a first party Sony dev, since I'm sure they'd be happy to help, especially since half of Santa Monica Studio are doing fuck all except helping people anyway (The other half is working on God of War Ascension).

 


They have been working with Sony's support team and now sony has aparently put their best people on the problem. They still can't fix the issue without significantly changing how the game works aparently.



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@fauzman

Speaking hypothetically which would you find most egregious. Bethesda not releasing the game on your platform, delaying the release for many months, or putting out a buggier then usual game. The point I am driving home is this. You as a owner would have thrown a fucking tantrum if it was the first two. Before you say you wouldn't mind. Don't even bother, because I damn well know better. I have seen far too many Sony loyalists throw conniption fits when they either don't get the game, or are forced to wait. Hell when they are forced to wait they bitch about not getting it at a discount. Which they shouldn't get, because it costs developers more time and money to make a PS3 game. They should be thankful that they are getting it at the same price.

While I am at it don't even float the suggestion that all the versions ought to have been delayed until the version for the PS3 was ready. There is no reason why everyone else should have to wait, because the PS3 has what can be described as the hardware equivalent of a severe learning disability. I think we suffer through too many game delays as it is, because of the PS3s obvious limitations. We shouldn't even have our games being watered down, because of the PS3s problems either.

Like I said it is your problem to deal with. If you bought the PS3 at launch you should have more then enough cash to buy better hardware. If you bought it once the price came down. Then by that time the problems were well documented. You basically don't have an excuse for being in possession of hardware that was fairly obsolete the moment it came out of the box. If you insist on playing on substandard hardware then you should expect to be getting substandard results.

Why the hell is this so hard to understand. I started this generation with a Wii, and found out just how substandard that hardware was. You know what I did about that. I didn't go blaming developers, or making excuses for what Nintendo sold me. I ditched the console, and went out to acquire a new console. You can do the exact same thing I did. You can sell off your PS3 to someone, and use that money to buy a better console, or to invest into a gaming PC. The PS3 is just shitty hardware either you can live with that or you cannot.