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Its either dead or on PS4. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
oniyide said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
oniyide said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Square Enix has truly solidified themselves as Japanese Capcom of RPG's. They don't need DLC or upgraded editions of their games to screw their fans though. Their wannabe western milking business model is kicking in just like Capcom. The smartest thing any reasonable Final Fantasy fan can do is follow Sakaguchi by buying Lost Odyssey and the Last Story. Final Fantasy died in spirit when he left.

Gonna have to disagree at least the Capcom games(fighters at least) are ENJOYABLE a hell of alot more than the FF series of late, actually the only ones was dissapointed with was 13 and to a lesser extent 14

Capcom has been screwing us all since childhood, duping us into buying three versions of Street Fighter during childhood. Capcom screwed the Street Fighter and MVC fans plain and simple. Cutting off DLC and forcing them to fork out about fourty dollars for 3-4 more characters than they already had in a new expanded game is highway robbery. Square Enix never stopped listening to their fanbase until this generation.

im debating you there, but i still hold Capcom a little higher than SE this gen, because they are screwing around but at the very least the fighting games themselves are quality, cant really say the same for the FF games this gen, at least not all of them


SE has lost the Japanese flavor that made them great. Whats great about SE today is purely western (which Capcom has been turning into as well). I could rant about SquareEnix not being able to fill the shoes of Squaresoft in quality, but thats another story. The point is SE doesn't have the balls to pull the plug on the game. They could just spare us all the heartache but they wont. Capcom has never had a title that had the weight of a console on it either. 


Very true, I'll go one step further and say you cant even give SE credit for those good games in the west, at least not fully as thsoe were made by studios that they just simply bought. Which is even more baffling that they cant get their eastern devs heads out of their asses. Why make their japanese properties more western?? What was the point in even buying Eidos then?



Pesmerga7551 said:
This game needs to be cancelled officially, along with this new third POS FF13 project. Talk about milking a series because a company lost all of their inspiration and can't be caught dead innovating anymore. What a crappy developer they've become. Also while they are at it, they can cancel all of that is FF14. Then they can go in a room for 500 hours straight playing FF4-10 and then released to make a new FF game. If anyone even talks about any other games prior to that, they will be hung from their corporate building as a warning to all employees. They are held to a strict standard to forget all that is FF13, so much so they can't even have a spell called Lightning anymore; Will have to be Thunder. Nor can it be said out loud, which is again, punishable by the gift of a noose.

Don't know why these idiots can't even make a decent game anymore, let alone make one in a decent time frame. People suggest that Square always took forever, but at their prime, their games released every 1 1/2 years. 6+ years for a game that probably will be utter shit is unacceptable. Why my confidence of pure garbage from this project? Well because everything they have done in the last 10 years has been nothing but that.

Thank God that Kojima isn't as incompetent as these idiots. RIP FF. Versus13 once had all the promise in the world, but now I want a swift death from it. The game tires me. There idiocy is shown because the game is supposed to be out already. No one shows a trailer 6 years before a games to be released.

On to good news from Japan.. I can't wait till MGS:Ground Zeroes comes out! Looks so good.. Looks better than v13 ever did graphically and it will be out before it! AND OMG, we actually seen gameplay!


To be fair, there portable output has been pretty decent to good. TWEWY, KHs, Dissidia, Crisis Core, the remakes its just they are sucking hard on the consoles and i agree with everything you said. 



Pesmerga7551 said:
This game needs to be cancelled officially, along with this new third POS FF13 project. Talk about milking a series because a company lost all of their inspiration and can't be caught dead innovating anymore. What a crappy developer they've become. Also while they are at it, they can cancel all of that is FF14. Then they can go in a room for 500 hours straight playing FF4-10 and then released to make a new FF game. If anyone even talks about any other games prior to that, they will be hung from their corporate building as a warning to all employees. They are held to a strict standard to forget all that is FF13, so much so they can't even have a spell called Lightning anymore; Will have to be Thunder. Nor can it be said out loud, which is again, punishable by the gift of a noose.

Don't know why these idiots can't even make a decent game anymore, let alone make one in a decent time frame. People suggest that Square always took forever, but at their prime, their games released every 1 1/2 years. 6+ years for a game that probably will be utter shit is unacceptable. Why my confidence of pure garbage from this project? Well because everything they have done in the last 10 years has been nothing but that.

Thank God that Kojima isn't as incompetent as these idiots. RIP FF. Versus13 once had all the promise in the world, but now I want a swift death from it. The game tires me. There idiocy is shown because the game is supposed to be out already. No one shows a trailer 6 years before a games to be released.

On to good news from Japan.. I can't wait till MGS:Ground Zeroes comes out! Looks so good.. Looks better than v13 ever did graphically and it will be out before it! AND OMG, we actually seen gameplay!


I disagree, FF12 was a solid game so in the past 6 years they have been terrible ie: since FF13 was announced.



BasilZero said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
That company is runed by a bunch of retards.

damn they are fucking stupid , poor nomura getting fucked over and over. they dont have respect for hi or something?


Dont put Nomura on a pedestal, he's a glorified character desginer (albiet a great one). Its the very reason FF is all style and no substance. Someone else needs to be directing the FF franchise.


You do realize that this guy has been directing the FF series , not Nomura: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motomu_Toriyama

Lets see his record as a Director (of any kind):

-Final Fantasy X
-Final Fantasy X-2
-Final Fantasy VII Tech Demo
-Final Fantasy XII Revnant Wings
-Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles My Life as A King
-Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles My Life as A DarkLord
-Blood of Bahamut
-Final Fantasy XIII
-Final Fantasy XIII-2
-Final Fantasy XIII: Return of Lightning

As for Nomura (a Director of any Kind)
-Final Fantasy VI
-Final Fantasy VII
-Final Fantasy VIII
-Kingdom Hearts
-Kingdom Hearts II
-Kingdom Hearts Coded
-Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded
-Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
-Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep
-Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories
-Kingdom Hearts 3D Dream Drop Distance
-Final Fantasy VII Advent Childen
-Final Fantasy VII Last Order
-Final Fantasy Versus XIII

 

So ya....you can decide from this list who needs to go and who needs to lead ;p

As much as I would love Nomura to lead FF I don't want him to be distracted from the KH series which currently I believe is stronger than the FF series (although I actually liked FFXIII and FFXIII-2, not that they were as good as the earlier ones).



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BasilZero said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
That company is runed by a bunch of retards.

damn they are fucking stupid , poor nomura getting fucked over and over. they dont have respect for hi or something?


Dont put Nomura on a pedestal, he's a glorified character desginer (albiet a great one). Its the very reason FF is all style and no substance. Someone else needs to be directing the FF franchise.


You do realize that this guy has been directing the FF series , not Nomura: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motomu_Toriyama

Lets see his record as a Director (of any kind):

-Final Fantasy X
-Final Fantasy X-2
-Final Fantasy VII Tech Demo
-Final Fantasy XII Revnant Wings
-Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles My Life as A King
-Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles My Life as A DarkLord
-Blood of Bahamut
-Final Fantasy XIII
-Final Fantasy XIII-2
-Final Fantasy XIII: Return of Lightning

As for Nomura (a Director of any Kind)
-Final Fantasy VI
-Final Fantasy VII
-Final Fantasy VIII
-Kingdom Hearts
-Kingdom Hearts II
-Kingdom Hearts Coded
-Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded
-Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
-Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep
-Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories
-Kingdom Hearts 3D Dream Drop Distance
-Final Fantasy VII Advent Childen
-Final Fantasy VII Last Order
-Final Fantasy Versus XIII

 

So ya....you can decide from this list who needs to go and who needs to lead ;p

Nomura blows Toriyama out of the water, holy crap. Who did Type-0? Becasue that game is good.



BasilZero said:
oniyide said:

Nomura blows Toriyama out of the water, holy crap. Who did Type-0? Becasue that game is good.

Hajime Tabata

He directed
-Crisis Core Final Fantasy VII
-Before Crisis Final Fantasy VII
-Final Fantasy Type-0
-The 3rd Birthday

 

He only works on Portable titles.

aaah, i enjoyed CC FF7 and Type-0, heard BC FF7 was good and reviews for the 3rd birthday is all over the place



BasilZero said:
oniyide said:
BasilZero said:
oniyide said:

Nomura blows Toriyama out of the water, holy crap. Who did Type-0? Becasue that game is good.

Hajime Tabata

He directed
-Crisis Core Final Fantasy VII
-Before Crisis Final Fantasy VII
-Final Fantasy Type-0
-The 3rd Birthday

 

He only works on Portable titles.

aaah, i enjoyed CC FF7 and Type-0, heard BC FF7 was good and reviews for the 3rd birthday is all over the place


They were planning to make a remake of BC FFVII for the PSP, maybe it will be a Vita title in the future since all his other titles are PSP lol


That would be cool, what would even be more cool is if they get Type-0 to SOME English speaking country. Hell it could be in Espanol i could understand that



of course haha FFVXIII will come out when Emma Stone does Porn which is never



Buying a PS4 nuff said.

Tetsuya Nomura was probably the best thing to happen to Final Fantasy in a long time. His character designs are iconic and resonate with RPG fans. Also, many fail to realize his influence throughout the series history. He first officially came on in FFVI as battle designer or something. Then character designer in VII-X.

Yet what his job title doesn't say is that he has a hand in some of the most key plot points in FFs. Sakaguchi originally wanted to make FFVII a long flashback sequence(like FFX) but it was Nomura is convinced the panel to scrap that idea and go for the chase approach(following Sephiroth's journey). While he takes direction from the lead designers, the lead designers also take cues from his artwork. This has all been revealed in past interviews. This is one of the main reasons every game he touches seems to turn to gold (KH, FFVII, FFVIII, FFX, TWEWY, CCFFVII, Advent Children).

Has anyone else realized that SE uses him almost like the official mouth piece of the company now as well? Especially when they want to deliver bad news, if Nomura does it it comes off a bit easier. When Wada does it I want to rip his head off. I feel this is similar to Konami forcing Kojima to reveal MGRising for 360 at that E3, looked like Kojima wanted to jump off a cliff but it felt more appropriate coming from him than from the corporate machine.

PS. I am also very much looking forward to the behind the scenes development videos for FF Versus XIII, I think that might just be the most interesting movie yet from SE :/



      

      

      

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