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Can the WiiU do more for gaming than the Wii in the long run?

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oniyide on 31 August 2012
phenom08 said:
oniyide said:
Hell yeah, its pretty much a regular control with a touch screen, I would go so far as to say a regular controller had more gaming potential than the wiimote(you could play virtually all genres with a controller, cant say the same for wiimote). I hear alot of people say that the potential for Wiimote was never reached, i say that it didnt really have that much potential in the first place, after the initial awe and shock wears off and you realize that the acutal motion tech behind it was kinda crap and inaccurate

You cant play motion based games with a controller so no, and what are these genres that cant be done with the wii remote?


fighting games for one, withoug making extreme sacrifices, cant see how you can map all 6 SF buttons to the WiiMote. You cant play motion based games with the controller?? Sure you can as long as that controller has motion tech in it, and doesnt the WIipad have that?? it still dont matter because Wii U is backward compatable, everyone wins



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phenom08 on 31 August 2012
oniyide said:
phenom08 said:
oniyide said:
Hell yeah, its pretty much a regular control with a touch screen, I would go so far as to say a regular controller had more gaming potential than the wiimote(you could play virtually all genres with a controller, cant say the same for wiimote). I hear alot of people say that the potential for Wiimote was never reached, i say that it didnt really have that much potential in the first place, after the initial awe and shock wears off and you realize that the acutal motion tech behind it was kinda crap and inaccurate

You cant play motion based games with a controller so no, and what are these genres that cant be done with the wii remote?


fighting games for one, withoug making extreme sacrifices, cant see how you can map all 6 SF buttons to the WiiMote. You cant play motion based games with the controller?? Sure you can as long as that controller has motion tech in it, and doesnt the WIipad have that?? it still dont matter because Wii U is backward compatable, everyone wins

Why is SF the barometer for fighting games lol, if anything since Smash is more popular why isnt it. What you are doing is called cherry picking to try to make the Wii remotes look bad. Also i cant believe you just said controllers cant do motion games because they lack the tech, news flash if the Wii remote had more buttons then yea it could do SF. Wiipad has motion tech, and yet still cant be used for motion based games lol. You can ask Ninty and Sony, Ninty used the wii remotes in the video to bat and the pad to catch the ball. Can you imagine waving that controller around like a tennis racket? Sony had motion tech in the PS3 controllers and yet still created Move to play Sport champion. Last but not least the 3DS has the same tech as the Pad except the infrared sensor and yet the 3DS has nothing like Wii sports in its library. So no having motion tech wouldnt have solved the problems controllers have with motion games.



oniyide on 31 August 2012
phenom08 said:
oniyide said:
phenom08 said:
oniyide said:
Hell yeah, its pretty much a regular control with a touch screen, I would go so far as to say a regular controller had more gaming potential than the wiimote(you could play virtually all genres with a controller, cant say the same for wiimote). I hear alot of people say that the potential for Wiimote was never reached, i say that it didnt really have that much potential in the first place, after the initial awe and shock wears off and you realize that the acutal motion tech behind it was kinda crap and inaccurate

You cant play motion based games with a controller so no, and what are these genres that cant be done with the wii remote?


fighting games for one, withoug making extreme sacrifices, cant see how you can map all 6 SF buttons to the WiiMote. You cant play motion based games with the controller?? Sure you can as long as that controller has motion tech in it, and doesnt the WIipad have that?? it still dont matter because Wii U is backward compatable, everyone wins

Why is SF the barometer for fighting games lol, if anything since Smash is more popular why isnt it. What you are doing is called cherry picking to try to make the Wii remotes look bad. Also i cant believe you just said controllers cant do motion games because they lack the tech, news flash if the Wii remote had more buttons then yea it could do SF. Wiipad has motion tech, and yet still cant be used for motion based games lol. You can ask Ninty and Sony, Ninty used the wii remotes in the video to bat and the pad to catch the ball. Can you imagine waving that controller around like a tennis racket? Sony had motion tech in the PS3 controllers and yet still created Move to play Sport champion. Last but not least the 3DS has the same tech as the Pad except the infrared sensor and yet the 3DS has nothing like Wii sports in its library. So no having motion tech wouldnt have solved the problems controllers have with motion games.

SF is the barometer because it predates Smash for a couple of years and its a traditional fighting game, so the Wiimote is able to play ONE fighting game out of the many series properly, hell Smash with Wiimote sucked IMHO, i just stuck to GC controllers anyway, much better than Wiimote. I said controllers can do motion tech as long as you put the actual tech inside it, not a hard concept to grasp. I never said it was going to solve problems, stop putting words in people mouths. i just said controllers can have motion tech. and they do. 



phenom08 on 31 August 2012
oniyide said:
phenom08 said:
oniyide said:
phenom08 said:
oniyide said:
Hell yeah, its pretty much a regular control with a touch screen, I would go so far as to say a regular controller had more gaming potential than the wiimote(you could play virtually all genres with a controller, cant say the same for wiimote). I hear alot of people say that the potential for Wiimote was never reached, i say that it didnt really have that much potential in the first place, after the initial awe and shock wears off and you realize that the acutal motion tech behind it was kinda crap and inaccurate

You cant play motion based games with a controller so no, and what are these genres that cant be done with the wii remote?


fighting games for one, withoug making extreme sacrifices, cant see how you can map all 6 SF buttons to the WiiMote. You cant play motion based games with the controller?? Sure you can as long as that controller has motion tech in it, and doesnt the WIipad have that?? it still dont matter because Wii U is backward compatable, everyone wins

Why is SF the barometer for fighting games lol, if anything since Smash is more popular why isnt it. What you are doing is called cherry picking to try to make the Wii remotes look bad. Also i cant believe you just said controllers cant do motion games because they lack the tech, news flash if the Wii remote had more buttons then yea it could do SF. Wiipad has motion tech, and yet still cant be used for motion based games lol. You can ask Ninty and Sony, Ninty used the wii remotes in the video to bat and the pad to catch the ball. Can you imagine waving that controller around like a tennis racket? Sony had motion tech in the PS3 controllers and yet still created Move to play Sport champion. Last but not least the 3DS has the same tech as the Pad except the infrared sensor and yet the 3DS has nothing like Wii sports in its library. So no having motion tech wouldnt have solved the problems controllers have with motion games.

SF is the barometer because it predates Smash for a couple of years and its a traditional fighting game, so the Wiimote is able to play ONE fighting game out of the many series properly, hell Smash with Wiimote sucked IMHO, i just stuck to GC controllers anyway, much better than Wiimote. I said controllers can do motion tech as long as you put the actual tech inside it, not a hard concept to grasp. I never said it was going to solve problems, stop putting words in people mouths. i just said controllers can have motion tech. and they do. 

The Wii remote can do traditional controls if it has the tech so whats your point lol. SF is not the barometer whether you like it or not so try again. Since smash sells more then it should be the barometer since we can just make things up.



cyberninja45 on 31 August 2012
oniyide said:
cyberninja45 said:
I think people are confusing what the developers used the wii mote for and not the actual potential of the wiimote and nunchuck.

As a person that has been using the traditional controllers for over 20 years I have to say that the wiimote nunchuck combo is superior in almost every genre bar some like 2d games, fighting games and probably fifa (I like traditional controls for fifa).

Aiming in 3d games have always been slow in dual analog, that's why developers compensate for it by either having that auto lock snap feature or as with most 3d shooters slow gameplay.
Are people really going to tell me RE4 played better with DA than on wii. Really?

Well FPS games are just better with wii and nunchuck. Most sports games are infinetly better with the wiimote and is more fun to play with it. Did anyone play Tiger woods with motion+? Have anyone ever played 2 player table tennis on wii sports resort probably one of the best games this gen(and that's a minigame).

And to the person about okami, that game was a lot more fluid with the wiimote and it improves the gameplay a lot as rol already said the problem was not the wiimote (as I already said developer misuse should not be confused with potential).

And think about it if developers couldn't use the wiimote properly or take full advantage of it, what makes you think they would use the gamepad to its full potential. Think about it

that makes no sense, the Wiipad is just a controller with a screen, think about it, you dont think that a regular controller has pretty much been mastered? Its going to be much easier to deal with than the wiimote ever was.

the sport analogy is all wrong, I dont count those mini game collections as actual sports. Those fall more in line with the minigame compilation. There are really only two sports that really take advantage of the wiimote. Tennis and golf. that is in no way indicative of the actual sports genre. What about the Maddens, Fifas, NBAs, the actual games that are popular?

FPS is kind of hit or miss IMHO. Conduit did a good job, but GE? Not so much, had to do alot of heavy tweaking just so i could freaking turn quickly in an online match, which is ironic because it was supposed to be easier than DA

You know you actually prove my points with your post.

@ Underlined because the wiipad is just a traditional controller (limiting its potential) with a screen on it ,as you said,this proves my point that it will just be used by developers as a traditional controller, they will barely utilize the touch screen in any meaningful way probably only maps and inventory.

@bold 1. The important thing there is YOU, just because YOU don't count them as "sports" game does not mean in any way, shape, or form that their gameplay is not that of sports game. I think its called moving the hockey net or something like that. I could agree with fifa. And actually I think you would need to combine the sales of fifa, madden and NBA to reach wii sports resort.

@bold 2. Again this proves my point about developer misuse, as you said  conduit was done good, GE was done bad, is this a fault of the wiimote or the developer???



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cyberninja45 on 31 August 2012
BasilZero said:
Sales wise it wont have the same impact that the Wiimote had but depth in controls of games yes it will be.


Besides fighting games I would really like to hear from people what games they think a wii motion+ and nunchuck (or an improved wiimote) can't handle. Really what genres are people talking about?



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cyberninja45 on 31 August 2012
BasilZero said:
cyberninja45 said:
BasilZero said:
Sales wise it wont have the same impact that the Wiimote had but depth in controls of games yes it will be.


Besides fighting games I would really like to hear from people what games they think a wii motion+ and nunchuck (or an improved wiimote) can't handle. Really what genres are people talking about?


When I say impact, I meant to say hype and appeal for casuals and for gamers. It'll have a impact, but it wont be as big as what the Wiimote did when it was first unveiled. 

I'm pretty sure the Wii-Mote will be used in future games but the GamePad will obviously be Nintendo's main objective.

@bolded totally agree. But i was really referring to what games could not be done with the wii-mote as i see you mentioned depth of controls with the gamepad



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Player2 on 01 September 2012
cyberninja45 said:
BasilZero said:
Sales wise it wont have the same impact that the Wiimote had but depth in controls of games yes it will be.


Besides fighting games I would really like to hear from people what games they think a wii motion+ and nunchuck (or an improved wiimote) can't handle. Really what genres are people talking about?

Any game that doesn't involve aiming is better played on a regular wired controller, because with motion controls you have to play with a wireless controller that does have lag (a wired wiimote is obviously a bad idea).



cyberninja45 on 01 September 2012
Player2 said:
cyberninja45 said:
BasilZero said:
Sales wise it wont have the same impact that the Wiimote had but depth in controls of games yes it will be.


Besides fighting games I would really like to hear from people what games they think a wii motion+ and nunchuck (or an improved wiimote) can't handle. Really what genres are people talking about?

Any game that doesn't involve aiming is better played on a regular wired controller, because with motion controls you have to play with a wireless controller that does have lag (a wired wiimote is obviously a bad idea).

I never experienced any noticeable lag when playing motion controlled games on my wii (like skyward sword or redsteel 2) do you have a specific example?



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oniyide on 01 September 2012
phenom08 said:
oniyide said:
phenom08 said:
oniyide said:
phenom08 said:
oniyide said:
Hell yeah, its pretty much a regular control with a touch screen, I would go so far as to say a regular controller had more gaming potential than the wiimote(you could play virtually all genres with a controller, cant say the same for wiimote). I hear alot of people say that the potential for Wiimote was never reached, i say that it didnt really have that much potential in the first place, after the initial awe and shock wears off and you realize that the acutal motion tech behind it was kinda crap and inaccurate

You cant play motion based games with a controller so no, and what are these genres that cant be done with the wii remote?


fighting games for one, withoug making extreme sacrifices, cant see how you can map all 6 SF buttons to the WiiMote. You cant play motion based games with the controller?? Sure you can as long as that controller has motion tech in it, and doesnt the WIipad have that?? it still dont matter because Wii U is backward compatable, everyone wins

Why is SF the barometer for fighting games lol, if anything since Smash is more popular why isnt it. What you are doing is called cherry picking to try to make the Wii remotes look bad. Also i cant believe you just said controllers cant do motion games because they lack the tech, news flash if the Wii remote had more buttons then yea it could do SF. Wiipad has motion tech, and yet still cant be used for motion based games lol. You can ask Ninty and Sony, Ninty used the wii remotes in the video to bat and the pad to catch the ball. Can you imagine waving that controller around like a tennis racket? Sony had motion tech in the PS3 controllers and yet still created Move to play Sport champion. Last but not least the 3DS has the same tech as the Pad except the infrared sensor and yet the 3DS has nothing like Wii sports in its library. So no having motion tech wouldnt have solved the problems controllers have with motion games.

SF is the barometer because it predates Smash for a couple of years and its a traditional fighting game, so the Wiimote is able to play ONE fighting game out of the many series properly, hell Smash with Wiimote sucked IMHO, i just stuck to GC controllers anyway, much better than Wiimote. I said controllers can do motion tech as long as you put the actual tech inside it, not a hard concept to grasp. I never said it was going to solve problems, stop putting words in people mouths. i just said controllers can have motion tech. and they do. 

The Wii remote can do traditional controls if it has the tech so whats your point lol. SF is not the barometer whether you like it or not so try again. Since smash sells more then it should be the barometer since we can just make things up.

What you're saying makes no sense as usual. So...have a good day