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Another thing. Circumcision in the US is probably far more embedded in religion than anything else.

A traditionally deep religious country like the USA would take a lot of biblical teachings to heart.
Many founding fathers considered themselves the chosen people (the new jews) and circumcision was a sign between God and his people.... or something of the sort.

I read that in an American history book ages ago.



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Because the benefits are close to 0%... not 0%, but we're talking one out of hundreds of thousands of people who don't take care of themselves via proper hygene.

And in return, in general what you end up with is less sexual sensititivty, which honestly is probably more important to most men then reducing penis infection from  a .001% chance to .00001% chance.



I cannot remember reading about widespread penis-disease in European countries



Also. Persistent Hug? Seems like you should be on the other side of the issue.



Kasz216 said:

Because the benefits are close to 0%... not 0%, but we're talking one out of hundreds of thousands of people who don't take care of themselves via proper hygene.

And in return, in general what you end up with is less sexual sensititivty, which honestly is probably more important to most men then reducing penis infection from  a .001% chance to .00001% chance.


Also, 99% of statistics on the internet are made up on the spot.

And really?  Increased sensitivity if more important to men?  That's why some of the best selling male enhancement gels have a numbing agent in it, right?



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Crono141 said:
Kasz216 said:

Because the benefits are close to 0%... not 0%, but we're talking one out of hundreds of thousands of people who don't take care of themselves via proper hygene.

And in return, in general what you end up with is less sexual sensititivty, which honestly is probably more important to most men then reducing penis infection from  a .001% chance to .00001% chance.


Also, 99% of statistics on the internet are made up on the spot.

beleive it or not, that's actually about what the percentage is.  Didn't bother looking up the full number, but it's shockingly low, since the health benefits are for diseases nobody ever gets anyway.


Also with a name like persistanthug you'd think he'd be anti-circumsision.



Crono141 said:
Kasz216 said:

Because the benefits are close to 0%... not 0%, but we're talking one out of hundreds of thousands of people who don't take care of themselves via proper hygene.

And in return, in general what you end up with is less sexual sensititivty, which honestly is probably more important to most men then reducing penis infection from  a .001% chance to .00001% chance.


Also, 99% of statistics on the internet are made up on the spot.

 


84% of people would agree with that statement



Crono141 said:
Kasz216 said:

Because the benefits are close to 0%... not 0%, but we're talking one out of hundreds of thousands of people who don't take care of themselves via proper hygene.

And in return, in general what you end up with is less sexual sensititivty, which honestly is probably more important to most men then reducing penis infection from  a .001% chance to .00001% chance.


Also, 99% of statistics on the internet are made up on the spot.

And really?  Increased sensitivity if more important to men?  That's why some of the best selling male enhancement gels have a numbing agent in it, right?

Those are for nerds



Crono141 said:


Removing it has ZERO positive effects other than  boasting the EGO of people that for no reason but tradition/religion  keep doing OUTDATED unhealthy shit. Doing tradition for traditions sake us useless.


Tell that to the millions with AIDS in africa.  It has been clinically proven that a circumsized person has less chance of catching and spreading the disease than an uncircumsized person.  The case is so strong that the leaders of several african nations publicly underwent the procedure to encourage the practice amonst the population to help cut down the disease that is KILLING MILLIONS!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18549968


Wow very great point  NOT...

Are you  or is anyone here one of the people with aids in africa? No. As long as you are no poor waterless african person with hygiene problem and lack of knowledge how to properly wash yourself circumcision has no positive effect for you .

Its nonsense that a person without foreskin has less of a chance to spread it  thats just bullshit.   Aids can be spread with sperm.   No matter if there is foreskin or not.  The only way I can imagine how this could be true is if a lion bite off your balls and you cant produce sperm anymore. Who knows how their average day looks like (jk)

And about the being infected thing...
Your link says   "the skin under the foreskin becomes less sensitive and is less likely to bleed, reducing the risk of infection."  When was the last time anybody you knew had a bleeding penis?
Thats not a first world problem at all because we know how to "maintain" a clean penis. And just because the odds to get aids might go from 1.5:1 go to 2:1 doesnt make it a useful method at all.  Its especially useless for the first world countries  because  educated people here use a condom when they have sex with strangers etc.

Btw the "study" has a fatal error  which is: A circumcised penis is less sensitive thats correct BUT it is more exposed to external stuff.  It is dramatically more exposed to external  bacteria, insects, dirt, heat etc.   This damages the penis and creates small injuries that can nullify the theoretical advantage of a circumcised penis.   The only real positive effect circumcision has is:

Its easier to wash the damn thing. Even a 1 handed person can do it.

This is the origin of  "smaller chance of being infected".   Because africans with  lack of water  have hygiene problems. This is the only reason why they suggest circumcision in Africa.  Alot of them also simply dont know that you should pull back the foreskin to wash it.

 And BTW. Its abvious that noone here was talking about the poorest people in a third world country that lack knowledge and water.  But for our society in the developed world...  my before mentioned arguments still are valid.

Seriously your reply is hilarious. 

P.S.  foreskin makes sex smoother and more gentle for females. No foreskin increases the chance of a sore vagina which also increases the chance for females to be infected with aids. Especially when the females suffer water defiency which is highly likely in poorer countries with lack of water. So even IF no foreskin would help males become less infected it would make females become easier infected.  

Not worth it.

Did the study show any change in infection rates for females? I dont think so.




HappySqurriel said:
What is the incidence of health problems associated to uncircumcised men?

About the only serious health problem I see claims for that would not be managed by wearing a condom when having sex outside of a commited relationship or through proper hygiene is an increased risk of penile cancer; and penile cancer occurs in 1 in 100,000 men.

fun fact incidence of health related problems due  to circumcision is also of that order , so health wise there is no real winner  , i saw a tv show where the fathers reason for his sons circumcision was so he wasn't called a milk bottle , apparently helmet head was okay .



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