There is a marked difference between 'kiddy' (appealing to kids) and 'all audiences'. Mario is a game that anyone can play at any age. There don't need to be adult-targeted themes in every type of game. Mario games are very unique and special because they don't target any specific demographic. In my 25 years of gaming I have never heard an adult refer to Mario games as 'kids games'. They are only ever called 'games', and it's because of their ability to do what very few games in history have been able to. I believe the premise of this thread is baseless.

I didn't watch the Sunshine video before but no wonder it is the Mario game I like the least!

The story in Donkey Kong wasn't as well scripted as you make it out to be. The hero wasn't even named Mario. He was Jumpman. Yeah, Jumpman. That's the best that they could do.

Yes.

There is no sex either.

Yeah some of them, and nobody gave a damn about Pandoars Tower. I never heard of Disaster and Fire Emblem.

The second one is hliarious I hope it meant as joke. I am sure the most 12 year olds live for an epic plot and brilliant characters.

Generalisation usually leads to bad conclusions like this one.

Is mario kiddy? Yes and no. Mario appeals to the whole spectrum. He is good for kiddies but its still good for adults aswell because the games are about the gameplay.

How would you know?

And does that really matter if you know them or not? He's trying to point out things that prove your point wrong, not give you games that you could play,

I haven't read the whole thread but he's my take on Mario games (platformers) and story: the less, the better.

I've recently started replaying SMG2 and I felt like the intro story was getting in the way of me enjoying the game. I kept mashing the A button the skip ahead and couldn't wait to hop to my first galaxy. NSMB Wii has the perfect amount of story for a Mario platformer, about 30 seconds.

Fun fact: it was originally supposed to be a Popeye game (with Pauline as Olive Oyl, DK as Bluto, and Mario as Popeye), but Nintendo couldn't quite net the rights to it in time

Why can't we have any mature games that don't involve constant shooting and killing? Like Heavy Rain, that was a good Mature title that wasn't too violent