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AndrewWK on 14 August 2012
-Newcloud- said:
pezus said:
-Newcloud- said:
COD is beind developed by Nihilistic Software, i am no longer excited

What, how? Didn't they just finish Resistance: Burning Skies?

Ya that's what I thought, hopefully it was there B team on Resistance. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/08/14/see-the-first-trailer-for-call-of-duty-black-ops-declassified-on-ps-vita/

I would like to be proved wrong but I have no confidence in that developer


Me neither, but it is Call of Duty how much could the do wrong?



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Kenology on 14 August 2012

I think this was a great conference.

Cross buy is awesome and gives gamers such a great value and I really, really like Tear Away.

At the same time, I don't think Sony really gets it. For existing Vita owners, this conference is awesome. For prospective buyers, it doesn't do much of anything because Cross buy caters to existing Sony PS3 fans.

It's clear now that Sony doesn't understand portable gaming. They want to make the Vita an extension of the PS3 as opposed to a portable with it's own identity. They just want to replicate the console experience on the Vita instead of giving it its own exclusive content. No is going to buy AC3 on Vita when they can get it on PS3. No one is going to buy CoD with Nihilistic behind it and they have a superior version on their PS3. Sony did nothing to differentiate the Vita from the PS3, and that's going to bite them in the ass.

In the end: Great conference, and they really aimed to please existing Vita fan as well as PS3 fans on the fence about the Vita. But nothing they announce will resonate with the mainstream and Vita sales will not improve by much at all.



Ajescent on 14 August 2012

sorry Mario but your princess is in another Vita.

Just watching the Vita cross control segment of the presentation, is it my imagination or were a couple of bit a shout out to Mario?

Wait- Red Dead to plus?! Hell yes!!!



PS One/2/p/3slim/Vita owner. I survived the Apocalyps3/Collaps3 and all I got was this lousy signature.


Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?

leo-j on 14 August 2012
turtuls said:
Did I miss any third party PSV announcements or was it only AC:L and COD:BO-D? I kinda expected more from third party for the Vita.


They announced Need for speed most wanted and Fifa 13 for PSv



 

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leatherhat on 14 August 2012
Kenology said:
I think this was a great conference.

Cross buy is awesome and gives gamers such a great value and I really, really like Tear Away.

At the same time, I don't think Sony really gets it. For existing Vita owners, this conference is awesome. For prospective buyers, it doesn't do much of anything because Cross buy caters to existing Sony PS3 fans.

It's clear now that Sony doesn't understand portable gaming. They want to make the Vita an extension of the PS3 as opposed to a portable with it's own identity. They just want to replicate the console experience on the Vita instead of giving it its own exclusive content. No is going to buy AC3 on Vita when they can get it on PS3. No one is going to buy CoD with Nihilistic behind it and they have a superior version on their PS3. Sony did nothing to differentiate the Vita from the PS3, and that's going to bite them in the ass.

In the end: Great conference, and they really aimed to please existing Vita fan as well as PS3 fans on the fence about the Vita. But nothing they announce will resonate with the mainstream and Vita sales will not improve by much at all.

You can't play AC liberation on ps3



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Ajescent on 14 August 2012

Fifa + Move= no thanks
Pro did it better with the wii controller



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Kynes on 14 August 2012
leatherhat said:
Kynes said:
leatherhat said:
Kynes said:
leatherhat said:
Kynes said:
leatherhat said:
I think you have to buy on psn for cross buy. So no buy and then trade in shenanigans.


If this is true, then they not only piss on third party companies, they also piss retailers taking sales from them.


There's nothing stopping third parties from doing this to. If they don't its their loss. 


If they do its their loss, as Sony don't have to pay themselves to develop games on PS3 or Vita, as they are the platform right holders. Tell to the third parties that they have to develop the same games on PS3 and Vita, and they have to give one of them free, and I'm sure they can't be happy with that.

Sony does this to try to make Vita a viable platform in the long term, they should be worried with its future if they do so. It's a bit of an uncompetitive behavior, but they seem to think that they need to do so. To me it's like if the first parties sold their games 10-15 US$ cheaper than the third party games.

This has nothing to do with "having" to make a vita version of a game. There's nothing stopping EA from making FIFA and Madden cross buy games except their own greed. And if another game gives a better deal and sells better thats called capitilism. 

I'm just saying that third parties can't be happy with this, and can kill their long term plans for the platform. If third party developers don't make games for the Vita in two years time, remember this as one of the main reasons. It's Sony's interest that third party developers are happy with a healthy ecosystem, undercutting them isn't intelligent.

Do Sony fans think in the long term viability of the company?

Such a drama queen. Third parties won't give a fuck. And again- they can do it too. 


How I dare to say that there are negative aspects of any decision made by Sony, they can't be at fault, at all...

You seem to ignore a lot of things, one of them is that third parties aren't charities. Lots of them are losing money and going broke, but you are too intelligent to see the problem of giving for free one game. Sony has a much bigger implication in the long term viability of a platform and they don't have to pay royalties as they are the first party. Third parties don't have margins to give one game for free.

I'm going to give you one example of something that has just happened. Imagine that Microsoft begins to sell Windows 8 tablets, cheaper than third parties. What happens? Third parties say that they can't compete with Microsoft, as they have to pay the OS license, so they abandon their plans to develop and sell windows tablets. It's what's happening, and what can happen with Vita games. If you can't see it then you have a comprehension problem.



leatherhat on 14 August 2012
Kynes said:
leatherhat said:
Kynes said:
leatherhat said:
Kynes said:
leatherhat said:
Kynes said:
leatherhat said:
I think you have to buy on psn for cross buy. So no buy and then trade in shenanigans.


If this is true, then they not only piss on third party companies, they also piss retailers taking sales from them.


There's nothing stopping third parties from doing this to. If they don't its their loss. 


If they do its their loss, as Sony don't have to pay themselves to develop games on PS3 or Vita, as they are the platform right holders. Tell to the third parties that they have to develop the same games on PS3 and Vita, and they have to give one of them free, and I'm sure they can't be happy with that.

Sony does this to try to make Vita a viable platform in the long term, they should be worried with its future if they do so. It's a bit of an uncompetitive behavior, but they seem to think that they need to do so. To me it's like if the first parties sold their games 10-15 US$ cheaper than the third party games.

This has nothing to do with "having" to make a vita version of a game. There's nothing stopping EA from making FIFA and Madden cross buy games except their own greed. And if another game gives a better deal and sells better thats called capitilism. 

I'm just saying that third parties can't be happy with this, and can kill their long term plans for the platform. If third party developers don't make games for the Vita in two years time, remember this as one of the main reasons. It's Sony's interest that third party developers are happy with a healthy ecosystem, undercutting them isn't intelligent.

Do Sony fans think in the long term viability of the company?

Such a drama queen. Third parties won't give a fuck. And again- they can do it too. 


How I dare to say that there are negative aspects of any decision made by Sony, they can't be at fault, at all...

You seem to ignore a lot of things, one of them is that third parties aren't charities. Lots of them are losing money and going broke, but you are too intelligent to see the problem of giving for free one game. Sony has a much bigger implication in the long term viability of a platform and they don't have to pay royalties as they are the first party. Third parties don't have margins to give one game for free.

I'm going to give you one example of something that has just happened. Imagine that Microsoft begins to sell Windows 8 tablets, cheaper than third parties. What happens? Third parties say that they can't compete with Microsoft, as they have to pay the OS license, so they abandon their plans to develop and sell windows tablets. It's what's happening, and what can happen with Vita games. If you can't see it then you have a comprehension problem.


Giving a download away costs almost no money and makes a purchase of that game significantly more attractive. Valve is the king of these type of generous deals and they rake it in. EA screws its customers as hard as it can and then ends up in the red. Being nice is better for business. 



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oldschoolfool on 14 August 2012

good announcement's if you have and love the vita,but that's about it.



killerzX on 14 August 2012
green_sky said:
superchunk said:
leo-j said:
how in the world does black ups look that bad on the vita? How is it hard to release the same exact game on ps3/360 running at 30fps.. COD looks horrible on ps3/360

1) why are you even interested in cod on vita...why buy a knock off game over the real thing.

2) of course it looks worse... not like Vita is as powerful as PS360.

3) PS360 versions already run at 30fps.... where is vita going to go down to?

All Call of Duty games are locked at 60 frames per second on consoles. That is the one point they emphasize every time they launch a new one to stand out from competitors. They could make it look as good as other games but frames per second would suffer. 


not locked, but targeted 60 fps.

the ps3 version dips to as low as 45 fps, and the xbox version goes as low as 50 fps.