pezus said: I expected about 5.5-6m I guess. It is still horrible though lol

How could you expect that many to be sold in the first half of 2012? That's cray.

TheShape31 said: pezus said: Turkish said: SOLIDSNAKE08 said: how many wii's sold so far in 2012? 1.5m Around 5-6m for the year, I'd say. Absolutely horrible drop We're over half way through the year, and the holidays are going to be focused around the Wii U.  They'll be lucky to sell any more than 4m by the end of the year.  And I figure they'll be selling half as much as the year before from then on.  It may very well take several years for the Wii to hit 105m total sales, which makes it all the more possible for PS3 to be in a legitimate race to that number.

So you're saying it will only sell another 1.6mil this year? Assuming 45k a week until November, the Wii would be at around 3mil come October 31st. So it'd sell 1mil in the holidays, or 80k per week... You realise the Wii was selling nearly 1mil each week last year, right? It's not going to be down 90% YoY, my word...and this is if the Wii is lucky?? Even if it's down the current 60%, it'd sell 5mil. So, at least be realistic. It'd be odd if it doesn't sell through 100mil, or near it (over 99mil) come the end of the year, or 3mil from here. That is realistic, whereas your prediction isn't, despite the fact the PS3 can sell 40mil in 4 years from here? It'd be good if it does half that. I apologize for being blunt, but this thread has gone on long enough. Why the PS3 is immune to heavy YoY drops (it's down well over 20% for the month, and down over 10% for the year FYI) baffles me, and it should you. AND NO CRAY NINPIE!

Slippery slope fallacy runs astray on this thread, for both sides. And to think this is the nerdish part of society....

You guys are hilarious.

come on, is not that important
this is just for fun

pezus said: NintendoPie said: pezus said: I expected about 5.5-6m I guess. It is still horrible though lol How could you expect that many to be sold in the first half of 2012? That's cray. No, overall for the year. Jesus Pie!

That's not what you said though....... and they were talking about "So far"................................

pezus said: NintendoPie said: pezus said: NintendoPie said: pezus said: I expected about 5.5-6m I guess. It is still horrible though lol How could you expect that many to be sold in the first half of 2012? That's cray. No, overall for the year. Jesus Pie! That's not what you said though....... and they were talking about "So far"................................ Yes, that's exactly what I said:  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4693902  They were talking about sales "so far" and I made a prediction for the whole year from that.

Look at the original quote, I see know "this year" or "overall."

Conegamer said: TheShape31 said: pezus said: Turkish said: SOLIDSNAKE08 said: how many wii's sold so far in 2012? 1.5m Around 5-6m for the year, I'd say. Absolutely horrible drop We're over half way through the year, and the holidays are going to be focused around the Wii U.  They'll be lucky to sell any more than 4m by the end of the year.  And I figure they'll be selling half as much as the year before from then on.  It may very well take several years for the Wii to hit 105m total sales, which makes it all the more possible for PS3 to be in a legitimate race to that number. So you're saying it will only sell another 1.6mil this year? Assuming 45k a week until November, the Wii would be at around 3mil come October 31st. So it'd sell 1mil in the holidays, or 80k per week... You realise the Wii was selling nearly 1mil each week last year, right? It's not going to be down 90% YoY, my word...and this is if the Wii is lucky?? Even if it's down the current 60%, it'd sell 5mil. So, at least be realistic. It'd be odd if it doesn't sell through 100mil, or near it (over 99mil) come the end of the year, or 3mil from here. That is realistic, whereas your prediction isn't, despite the fact the PS3 can sell 40mil in 4 years from here? It'd be good if it does half that. I apologize for being blunt, but this thread has gone on long enough. Why the PS3 is immune to heavy YoY drops (it's down well over 20% for the month, and down over 10% for the year FYI) baffles me, and it should you. AND NO CRAY NINPIE!

Your argument is far from flawless... 

1.) Why would you assume that the Wii sells 45k/week through October?  Every week Wii sales drop considerably.  By November, they will be selling considerably less.  But even using your 45k/week numbers, they're barely breaking 2m at the end of October (14 weeks x 45,000 = 630,000 + 1.5m = 2.13m), so where is this 3m number coming from?  I think 2m is a much more rational expectation, yes?

2.) 80k units/week does not equal 1m for the holidays (assuming you're talking about Nov-Dec).  9 weeks x 80,000 = 720,000, but do you really think they're going to sell 80k/week AGAINST THE WII U???  Pfft, cut your 1m in half, and there's 2.5m.  Now there are big weeks (Black Friday, etc.) where consoles will sell far more than normal.  But considering the loss of interest in the Wii, and the fact that Nintendo isn't going to be pushing their old system against their new one, and it's not going to get anywhere near the numbers from last year.  Also take into consideration that the HD twins will likely get price cuts, along with the PS3's redesign, and what reason does the general consumer have to spend money on an old, abandoned white box? 

4m units by the end of the year, at the most.  Your idea of realistic is based upon numbers from another year where the market was completely different.  When I'm right, I'll be sure to quote this so you can feel a bit silly for showing so much hubris. ;)

pezus said: What the fuck are you on about?! It says "for the year" right there in my post.  Like I said, they were talking about sales for the first half of 2012 so I decided to predict the sales for the full year based on that, which is why I quoted. This should not be so hard to understand Pie

"I expected about 5.5-6m I guess. It is still horrible though lol"

That's what you said. And I'm starting to think you edited something. 

It's not that big of a deal but still, that's what you said.

Lol, I got sooooo lost throughout this... let's just move on.

Wii will just barely make it over 100 million by early next year, and will then be put out to pasture as Nintendo shifts all focus (as if they haven't already) over to the Wii U which is fully b/c with all Wii games and peripherals the same way the Wii was with the GC.

No way will the PS3 sell a further 35 million + units to not only break the 100 mil mark but top the Wii as well. Both 360 and PS3 have peaked with core gamers in terms of installed base, and the casual / expanded audience will only take them so far between now and when the next gen is fully underway.

What will really be interesting is to see which competitor the Wii U takes away from in terms of stealing sales and market share once it launches... the 360 or PS3?