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teigaga said:

With the disparity between the 2 screens, the top being 3D, larger/widescreen and higher res, the bottom is now reduced to sublimentry duties like menu management and maps. Its still usefull but I would trade it for a 2nd stick and more power.The other features are unpractical: I think pointing and shooting with the second screen is awkward I've played both metroid hunter (ds) and Kid Icarus and I'd much rather a 2nd anologe stick. The 3DS/Stylus can draw in more detail then the vita and its screen but again I personally don't see a practical use for it other then Scribble naugts (which could still be done on vita, just not as well).

You could also use the Vita as book, it also has gyroscope for it to sense orientation, it has a larger screen and using the mutliscreen to maniplulate zoom would be more comfortable on the Vita. Remember that only the small ds screen is touch and that they are both different sizes, that would make for an awkward book. But thats no related to gaming.

Anyway some games will lend themselfs more to one system than another and I accept that people's preferences will vary, the 2nd screen in Zelda OOT3D is especially convient.

It is convenient. As for the book orientation for 3DS, have you played Brain Age? Even if this particular application doesn't interest you, the avenue is there, and we are talking about creative freedom after all. Imho a 2-page foldable device is more suited for book-like learning activities than a Vita, by design.

Regarding the disparity between both screens: The disparity between the 2 screens came as an upgrade from the DS top screen though. Initially these two were the same size. If the 3DS one has more viewing range, it doesn't reduce from the DS experience (which Brain Age was on), especially when devs can set the display area to be the same size as the right page.

You may not like the kid icarus style of input, but some younger kids might find it more approachable, using a tool they've been accustomed to using in less intense session (like calligraphy, drawing). It creates a bridge between the game and the gamer imho. This is something devs can work from and gives them more freedom. As for 2 analogs, the CCPro exists and devs can use it, so the 3DS doesn't lose on that front. Discuss consumerist convenience all you want, from a creative freedom standpoint the two are equal for dual analog.



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MDMAlliance said:
teigaga said:
MDMAlliance said:
teigaga said:


lol, you've completely missed the point. I'm talking about hardware and whether its a better system for developers to create the best quality. 


I don't think it's a good idea to argue this point.  It's offensive to those who own the system because it's like telling them "you own the inferior device."  If you look at raw power, then yes the Vita is better.  If you look at creative posibilities, it's hard to tell and it could go either way (depending on how useful the Vita's rear touchscreen is).  Both devices are capable of playing games of great quality, the Vita tends to be able to play them in HD and may be able to run certain things the 3DS can't.  This difference is actually quite small when it comes down to the device as a whole, though.  

Why would anyone be offended, Its not personal. Ultimately the value is in the games, so as long as you enjoy the games on the platform thats what matters most. But as a fan of gaming I want the Vita to succeed because I think it will be better for games.

I do believe the PSVita provides developers more creative freedom (even without the rear touch pad which I think may be a gimick) partially becuase when working with the system they don't have to compromise as much, and I feel the control scheme is more complete and cohesive but of course this just my preference. But the initial comment was simply to back up the arguement that the quality fo the Vita's hardware may be preventing some people (like me) from picking up a 3DS just yet. Of course if the Vita's lineup doesn't improve and the 3DS continues to gather more 3rd party support, then I'll buy a 3DS XL this christmas instead of the PSV. 


I personally think that the vita's analog sticks need to be redesigned as they are quite small and much harder to control than the home console analog sticks.  I think that not enough people point out that some people think that.  

The hardware limitations of the 3DS vs the Vita are mostly graphics, by the way.  I don't think graphics should be placed so high up the chart on how good a game is.  Standard Def vs HD where HD costs over $80 more, I think a lot of people would pick Standard Def.  

I do know that this isn't the only limitation, but it is the most obvious and apparent one.  I don't really think this argument will go much further as there are respective Vita only owners and 3DS only owners here who will defend their console as much as necessary because they are satisfied with it.

not enough people point it out because very few people think like that. And LOL to whoever will get offended. The Vita is more powerful than 3ds, fact.  If someone gets mad when that is brought up, then they need to go outside find a life and prioritize. I have 3ds and im not offended. Whether that makes one better than the other, all up to the person.



oniyide said:

not enough people point it out because very few people think like that. And LOL to whoever will get offended. The Vita is more powerful than 3ds, fact.  If someone gets mad when that is brought up, then they need to go outside find a life and prioritize. I have 3ds and im not offended. Whether that makes one better than the other, all up to the person.


I'm not saying people will get offended about the Vita being more powerful, but power doesn't mean "better" in all cases.  It's also rude to be like "You have a 3DS?  The Vita is better."  I would rather people respected the consoles each person owns rather than try to make theirs the best.  



Vitas analogs are really uncomfortable imo, very hard to handle, they made a big mistake there... the whole system has a mediocre design imo




This holiday the 3ds and 3ds XL.. will sky rock.. and i bet, that 3ds (and wii u) will top every region from that point..
At least until next box/ps comes. then we will see..



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because western gamers are stupid and snobs



Because the DS is still an adequate handheld system. Who needs better visuals? Games are cheap and plenty.



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FromDK said:
This holiday the 3ds and 3ds XL.. will sky rock.. and i bet, that 3ds (and wii u) will top every region from that point..
At least until next box/ps comes. then we will see..

The Wii U being a chart-topper this holiday is unlikely, for production reasons if nothing else.



1) I really just think the market has shrunk considerably. I think a somewhat significant portion of the market is satisfied with playing games on cell phones. The DS market was filled to the brim w/ "casuals" who have no allegiance to products or companies (other than peer pressure) and once becoming aware of the ability to download cheap software similar in quality to casual DS experiences were ready to jump ship.

2) There is also the fact that there is a large stigma when it comes to teens or adults who play portable devices instead of cell phone games in which they are seen as childish (ludicrously hypocritical when you consider the games played on a portable device are many times much more "core" and mature than the casual games many typically play on their cell phones. I was once laughed at, while playing Mercenaries 3D, for playing my 3DS by a family member who then returned to playing Angry Birds). Most would liken this to the stigma against adults who play consoles, but I would argue that this is a much stronger pressure for teens and children, the primary consumers for the 3DS.





NintendoPie said:

And how do we think it'll do later on in it's LifeTime?


you never herd of the edit button?

 

ANYWAY...

I seriously think part the problem is that it is Nintendo and people were hoping Vita woudl smash it.