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Forums - Sales - Global HW up June 16th (updated with SW numbers)

Jay520 on 21 June 2012
Troll_Whisperer said:
Nice little bump for Vita, though HW overall is pretty bad except for 3DS and PS3 which are ok-ish.


Those 3DS sales are pretty bad. It's 3rd in America behind two consoles at the tail end of their generation. And it's almost 3rd behind those same consoles in Europe.

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Jay520 on 21 June 2012
VGKing said:
PS3 - Ok numbers. Been #1 each week this year. Congratz.


It's doing better than the other consoles which are selling like shit. That's really nothing worth congradulating.

VGKing on 21 June 2012
Jereel Hunter said:
benao87 said:
With these numbers one can't deny the importance of Japan in this whole industry. Can't really believe some people refuse to believe that.

Japan is important, but what people have denied is whether CRITICAL for your console to succeed in Japan. 360 proved that it is not- Japan nearly ignored it, and it's still going to be a much bigger success than the PS3*.

*Before a bunch of people jump on me for this statement - success is about making money, and while the PS3's best case scenario for it's entire run is breaking even, the 360 is a very profitable venture.

No, it's not.

With home consoles, success is about getting that console in as many homes as possible.

The making money part only matters if you're an investor.



VGKing on 21 June 2012
Jay520 said:
VGKing said:
PS3 - Ok numbers. Been #1 each week this year. Congratz.


It's doing better than the other consoles which are selling like shit. That's really nothing worth congradulating.


PS3 is selling the least shitty. That's worth congratulating.

Look at this as a race. PS3 is in 1st. It's winning.



Millenium on 21 June 2012

Here we go again, another chart another cockfight.



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Jay520 on 21 June 2012
VGKing said:
Jay520 said:
VGKing said:
PS3 - Ok numbers. Been #1 each week this year. Congratz.


It's doing better than the other consoles which are selling like shit. That's really nothing worth congradulating.


1. PS3 is selling the least shitty. That's worth congratulating.

2. Look at this as a race. PS3 is in 1st. It's winning.



1. Least shitty? Okay, Low standards I guess.

2. Its not winning, it's catching up, but it's not winning, not even close. It's losing pretty handily actually

yo_john117 on 21 June 2012
VGKing said:
Jereel Hunter said:
benao87 said:
With these numbers one can't deny the importance of Japan in this whole industry. Can't really believe some people refuse to believe that.

Japan is important, but what people have denied is whether CRITICAL for your console to succeed in Japan. 360 proved that it is not- Japan nearly ignored it, and it's still going to be a much bigger success than the PS3*.

*Before a bunch of people jump on me for this statement - success is about making money, and while the PS3's best case scenario for it's entire run is breaking even, the 360 is a very profitable venture.

No, it's not.

With home consoles, success is about getting that console in as many homes as possible.

The making money part only matters if you're an investor.

Well that's just completely wrong. In the business world the very definition of success is about profits and yes that includes consoles. If your company sold 200 million of a console but didn't make a penny from it at all, it wasn't successful. Now a lot of the time businesses will lose money or take risks to have a better chance of being successful in the long run, which is what most console makers do.



crissindahouse on 21 June 2012

i like "see it as race"

why should someone see it as race if the manufacturer doesn't see it as race? because then, microsoft and sony would try much harder to sell more just to win "the race"

microsoft would give us xbox live for free and would sell more units then and would have done more advertisement in europe and would lower the price but they won't because they rather sell less consoles and get better financial results than selling 40k consoles more per month.

and sony would lower the price as well much earlier to win the not existing race just to sell 5 million units more lifetime.



Jereel Hunter on 21 June 2012
VGKing said:
Jereel Hunter said:
benao87 said:
With these numbers one can't deny the importance of Japan in this whole industry. Can't really believe some people refuse to believe that.

Japan is important, but what people have denied is whether CRITICAL for your console to succeed in Japan. 360 proved that it is not- Japan nearly ignored it, and it's still going to be a much bigger success than the PS3*.

*Before a bunch of people jump on me for this statement - success is about making money, and while the PS3's best case scenario for it's entire run is breaking even, the 360 is a very profitable venture.

No, it's not.

With home consoles, success is about getting that console in as many homes as possible.

The making money part only matters if you're an investor.

An investor... or the company who makes the console. If Sony ends this generation selling 4 million more consoles than MS, do you think they'll be happier with how things panned out, even though Microsoft will be over $2 Billion in the black, and Sony would still likely be in the red?

You can either use the ACTUAL definition of success (which clearly, the more profitable company is more successful), or we can use a reasonable alternative to success - which company is most happy with what it accomplished. No reasonable metric could possibly indicate that the 360 is not a bigger success than the PS3. Using number of home consoles as THE factor gauging success is like using Teraflops to determine which system had THE best graphics, without taking into account actual images.



oniyide on 21 June 2012

why do people think MH4 will boost sales in the US, that game was never that popular. Now Super Mario will boost some hardware