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mantlepiecek on 20 June 2012

Conegamer said:

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Well, the guy didn't know the name of the game, it was pretty obvious he would have called it some nintendo game.

Besides, who was the guy who made it again? Some guy from Japan?

I was joking. Settle down :P

lol I knew you were joking. Hence the second line.

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Kantor on 20 June 2012

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I'm the biggest God of War fan on Vgchartz but come on God of War: Ascension has only been up for pre-order for about 7 weeks and it's almost 38 weeks from launch, not that many games make it onto the pre-order charts in such little time so far away from release.

It'll probably make it onto the charts next week as it's been in the top 15 best selling games on Amazon.com across all video game hardware & software (even being in the top 5 a couple of times) for over 12 days in a row now (still at 11 right now) and it's been in the top 15 best selling PS3 games in Gamestop since they started taking pre-orders.

Then again, we recently found out the God of War games were massively under-tracked with GoW3 being a whopping 800,000 under so who's to say God of War: Ascension isn't under-tracked and should be in the pre-order charts? I'm not complaining though as I really don't care because Vgchartz doesn't claim to be 100% accurate and Sony will announce the numbers eventually anyway.

On a side note; Halo 4 is doing amazingly!

I take it you haven't met GoW3_Ever.

Also, we have a saying here that every time you quote amazon as a reliable source of preorder numbers, somebody clubs a baby seal to death. Amazon is a tiny share of the gaming market, with completely different demographics to the market as a whole. It has never reliably indicated preorder numbers or first week sales, and has never claimed to do so.

Earlier God of War games being undertracked doesn't mean Ascension is definitely undertracked too, but it's possible.

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VGKing on 20 June 2012

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Where is The Last of Us? Playstation All-Stars? God of War Ascension? Does Vgchartz dislike Sony or something? The Last of Us is ranked #291on Amazon video games so I find it very hard to believe it's not in the top 50.

I'm having same thoughts.

There's NO WAY that none of those games are in the Top 50. Out of all the sales tracking, the Pre-Orders chart is the least accurate on VGChartz. It's not very reliable.

do you have proof of this

I know of at least 1 game that was overtracked in pre-orders. It was Final Fantasy XIII-2. I think the same happened with Mass Effect 3.

In this case, it looks like VgChartz isn't tracking The Last of Us or God of War AT ALL.

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Conegamer said:

pezus said:

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ZaneWane said:

VGKing said:

Fusioncode said:

Where is The Last of Us? Playstation All-Stars? God of War Ascension? Does Vgchartz dislike Sony or something? The Last of Us is ranked #291on Amazon video games so I find it very hard to believe it's not in the top 50.

I'm having same thoughts.

There's NO WAY that none of those games are in the Top 50. Out of all the sales tracking, the Pre-Orders chart is the least accurate on VGChartz. It's not very reliable.

do you have proof of this

I remember some Nintendo game having pre-orders higher than the game's lifetime sales for like...3-4 weeks. I forgot which one it was though.

Skyward Sword? I think that's it.

Skyward Sword is not just "Some Nintendo Game", but you're right.

Xenoblade had a similar issue, where its preorders were the same as its FW sales. But, to VGC's fairness, it has improved massively over the past few months. So I'd say the values shown are accurate, and sadly I don't think TLOU is big enough to crack the top 50 yet. Same with All-Stars. GOW should be around #50, and I'd expect it in next week, or the week after.

The Last of Us was in the Top 10 pre-orders on Amazon the day after E3 and I'm sure it was in similar positions on ther online retailers.

There's no way it's not in the Top 50. Plain and Simple.

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No, it hasn't improved. Like I said before ME3 was overtracked in pre-orders.

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Kantor said:

JustThatGamer said:
I'm the biggest God of War fan on Vgchartz but come on God of War: Ascension has only been up for pre-order for about 7 weeks and it's almost 38 weeks from launch, not that many games make it onto the pre-order charts in such little time so far away from release.

It'll probably make it onto the charts next week as it's been in the top 15 best selling games on Amazon.com across all video game hardware & software (even being in the top 5 a couple of times) for over 12 days in a row now (still at 11 right now) and it's been in the top 15 best selling PS3 games in Gamestop since they started taking pre-orders.

Then again, we recently found out the God of War games were massively under-tracked with GoW3 being a whopping 800,000 under so who's to say God of War: Ascension isn't under-tracked and should be in the pre-order charts? I'm not complaining though as I really don't care because Vgchartz doesn't claim to be 100% accurate and Sony will announce the numbers eventually anyway.

On a side note; Halo 4 is doing amazingly!

I take it you haven't met GoW3_Ever.

Also, we have a saying here that every time you quote amazon as a reliable source of preorder numbers, somebody clubs a baby seal to death. Amazon is a tiny share of the gaming market, with completely different demographics to the market as a whole. It has never reliably indicated preorder numbers or first week sales, and has never claimed to do so.

Earlier God of War games being undertracked doesn't mean Ascension is definitely undertracked too, but it's possible.

...and who said it did?

Amazon is just the one example that people give of their favorite games having high pre-orders.(I know I do all my video game purchases from there) Would you like people to list every single online retailer just to try and prove a point?

Oh and wtf is up withpeople mentioning Amazon and Baby seals? Who the **** cares? It's annoying.

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Kantor on 20 June 2012

VGKing said:

Kantor said:

JustThatGamer said:
I'm the biggest God of War fan on Vgchartz but come on God of War: Ascension has only been up for pre-order for about 7 weeks and it's almost 38 weeks from launch, not that many games make it onto the pre-order charts in such little time so far away from release.

It'll probably make it onto the charts next week as it's been in the top 15 best selling games on Amazon.com across all video game hardware & software (even being in the top 5 a couple of times) for over 12 days in a row now (still at 11 right now) and it's been in the top 15 best selling PS3 games in Gamestop since they started taking pre-orders.

Then again, we recently found out the God of War games were massively under-tracked with GoW3 being a whopping 800,000 under so who's to say God of War: Ascension isn't under-tracked and should be in the pre-order charts? I'm not complaining though as I really don't care because Vgchartz doesn't claim to be 100% accurate and Sony will announce the numbers eventually anyway.

On a side note; Halo 4 is doing amazingly!

I take it you haven't met GoW3_Ever.

Also, we have a saying here that every time you quote amazon as a reliable source of preorder numbers, somebody clubs a baby seal to death. Amazon is a tiny share of the gaming market, with completely different demographics to the market as a whole. It has never reliably indicated preorder numbers or first week sales, and has never claimed to do so.

Earlier God of War games being undertracked doesn't mean Ascension is definitely undertracked too, but it's possible.

...and who said it did?

Amazon is just the one example that people give of their favorite games having high pre-orders.(I know I do all my video game purchases from there) Would you like people to list every single online retailer just to try and prove a point?

Oh and wtf is up withpeople mentioning Amazon and Baby seals? Who the **** cares? It's annoying.

Amazon has never correlated with first week sales, ever.

I could list every single online retailer. Add to that every brick and mortar retailer and you have the number of choices available. Going to a store with a small percentage of the marketshare and odd metrics for measuring its charts anyway, is not a good indication of final preorder numbers.