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H.E.R. on 21 June 2012

Unless Vita becomes the default controller for the PS3/4 (which most likely will never happen), any advantage of a PS3/4+Vita combo is moot.



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Mr Khan on 21 June 2012
Mmmfishtacos said:
God, you people are dense. There's nothing the wii u van do the ps3/vita combo can't. All you wii fans are really trying hard to down play this, but you can't. At all...

It's very, very easy to downplay this. The consoles and handhelds are sold separately. The Game Boy Advance was much more popular than the GameCube, but still ownership of both devices was limited enough to stunt Nintendo's connectivity efforts in that age. PS3 is only barely more popular than GBA, and Vita hasn't gotten to GameCube levels yet



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Alby_da_Wolf on 21 June 2012
Jumpin said:
Chark said:


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1. No, that feature uses the IR and would be hard to replicate unless using the PlayStation Eye to see the Vita and use the Vita's gyro to pinpoint the accuracy of your throws. Either way it makes more sense to use Move and Wii Motes doesn't it? Wii U wins on this front for ease of use but its nothing new.

2. Yes, the Vita could do this since it uses gyroscope to simulate this feature. In fact almost everything the Wii U does in regards to a second screen can be done by the Vita.

Are you sure? From what I understand, the Vita doesn't have a means by which a motion controller can interact simultaniously with it and the television screen. From the Golf demo, it shows that Wii Remotes can track from both the Wii U controller and the televsion; as the Wii U controller does have a means to be tracked (essentially comes with its own sensor bar).

With just gyroscopes you can measure angles, but not absolute position in space, this is true. But is it practical to use any motion control else than tilting it with a tablet-like controller? Swinging it like you would do with a wand controller, like a WiiMote or a PS Move, isn't practical or natural at all and the grip on it isn't strong enough to use it that way safely.



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Chark on 21 June 2012
Jumpin said:
Chark said:

1. No, that feature uses the IR and would be hard to replicate unless using the PlayStation Eye to see the Vita and use the Vita's gyro to pinpoint the accuracy of your throws. Either way it makes more sense to use Move and Wii Motes doesn't it? Wii U wins on this front for ease of use but its nothing new.

2. Yes, the Vita could do this since it uses gyroscope to simulate this feature. In fact almost everything the Wii U does in regards to a second screen can be done by the Vita.

Are you sure? From what I understand, the Vita doesn't have a means by which a motion controller can interact simultaniously with it and the television screen. From the Golf demo, it shows that Wii Remotes can track from both the Wii U controller and the televsion; as the Wii U controller does have a means to be tracked (essentially comes with its own sensor bar).

Hmm, I didn't think of that. There are a few work arounds using the Move with that and the AR camera on the Vita(instead of IR), but then again why even use the second screen in the first place...even on the Wii U...especially just to show a golfball. There are more practical reasons for that kind of feature and I don't think move controller interaction has anywhere to go with it. The 360 degree visual space is the more important part of all this and can be done on both devices.

Also, I can't stand the inaccuracies of IR technology. I had fun with the Wii except in every instance I had to use IR.



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Roma on 21 June 2012

sure Sony but do you have the games to actually back this up?


I think not...




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the_dengle on 21 June 2012
Mmmfishtacos said:
God, you people are dense. There's nothing the wii u van do the ps3/vita combo can't. All you wii fans are really trying hard to down play this, but you can't. At all...

How about clickable sticks and four shoulder triggers

Oh man that was really hard.



WiiBox3 on 21 June 2012

The idea is cool, but the problem is when developers make a PS3 game they don't know if the user has a Vita or not, so I don't think a lot of developers are going to make games that work the same way as the Wii U. Sony might be smart to have a PS3 Vita combo pack that you get $50 off if you buy them together.



Mmmfishtacos on 21 June 2012

How about a rear touch pad, damn that was hard.



Kynes on 21 June 2012

Sony seems to forget something. Segmentation of the userbase is never desired, and with move and now with the vita combo they are doing so. How many WiiU users will have the WiiU tablet? Everyone. How many PS3 users will have a Vita? Only several millions, not enough to create a critical mass of users.

It's a good fanboy wars weapon, but just that, I don't think that Sony first party studios should concentrate on creating vita+ps3 combo games, and third party studios won't do so.



cusman on 21 June 2012
Millenium said:

I'll take the Wii U over having to get a Vita anyday, it might not have the same horsepower, but it's more integrated.

I think Sony guy is not keying into the real value and potential of the PS-Vita to allow asymetric game design in connection with PS3.

  • Gorgeous 5" OLED screen that is best in class
  • Multi-touch screen that is best in class
  • Rear-touch screen that is first and only in existance
  • Stereo Surround Sound speakers built in that are best in class
  • Front and Rear facing camera
  • Gyro & Accelerometer controls

In terms of content that Wii U could push to the actual gamepad screen... the Wii U will have the clear advantage there having already shown gorgeous stuff running at HD and 60fps on the gamepad with no disernable lag due to proprietary form of wireless HDMI.

The Vita is not as strong as the PS3 and the Wii U is at least a little stronger than the PS3.

Also, as you said being designed for this type of connectivity, the expeirence on Wii U will be more integrated.