Ok, how can you be so sure of that?... I do have a very decent PC (I am studying 3d animation) and I have seen and tried some "AAA" third party games, LA Noire & fallout come to my mind. I dont debate the fact that a wii version of any of those games will requiere some work, but the thing is, what is the budget of those games??? I guess not that high, after all wii received a COD version almost every year selling above 1 million units each, and we all know activision doesnt like losing money, so why would they bother in the first place?...

I believe it because i have played those games and have a WIi and seen what the best Wii has to offer its not even close to those. SOme work?? How about making the game from the ground up, the engines running those games dont even work on WIi. LOL to people still using COD, those games are running on and engine that wasnt even that cutting edge to begin with. COD games are not pushing PS360, and the funny thing is it STILL runs like crap on WIi. 

  sorry, but I dont understand what you are trying to say here?

 Is this an argument about how bad some third party games look on the wii in comparison with ps3/360?

 OT: The definition of harcore is very wide. I consider my brother to be a very very hardcore gamer although he only plays PES. Please define hardcore first and then we can debate if nintendo lost anything.

Is getting the games...not a good thing?

They will be getting games, they just came late to the core party and are gaining devs core gamers tend to support so they can get in on the profit. Even though the "HD" crowd can be a sure thing, Nintendo's crowd doesn't really tend to care for most of those things on their console as they majorly eithe have another console for all of that stuff already. I doubt Nintendo got the memo that a lot of core gamers who have the Wii already have chosen between a 360 and a PS3 long ago. Whoever gets the Wii U is going to have to be a true Nintendo fan and Nintendo is going to have to bring far more next E3 to impress anyone. No doubt Nintendo will have some gems like they always do, but it feels like they are in their own world. Sometimes thats not such a bad thing, but it's like creating a tablet when the tablet market is already huge and dominated by Apple, most people (who have invested) wont be looking to you for what they already have.

Nintendo needs to get this through their head, the core isn't like the casual market. Microsoft dipped their hand into the casual market because casuals are fickle and buy whatever is new at the drop of a hat as long as it's sold well and have a new gimmick that can keep their passing/temporary consumer interest happy for a while just like the Wii did. Core gamers aren't exactly temporary, they are in it generally for the long haul and for Nintendo to dip their hand so late in a group of gamers who are loyal and dedicated might spell out a problem for them. It's the same as Microsofts problem in Japan, well the people don't see a need to support an outside console when they already has one that does the same crap. They should've worked on making the console more powerful in preparation for the other consoles. This console could share the same fate as the Gamecube even though Nintendo still profited off of that. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=aOiHcTkyvTo&feature=endscreen

heres is a graphical comparison between the Wii and Xbox360 CoD MW3
theres such a difference?
maybe is the guy running Dolphin instead?

While I agree it's uncertain the WiiU will get Ps4/xbox3 ports, I think it's very likely the UE4 will run on WiiU, since Epic said it will support the iphone.

He's saying that the difference in hardware between the Wii and the HD consoles means that even a game like Call of Duty which isn't using particularly advanced techniques (the IW engines are based on Quake III technology) on the HD consoles is a struggle to port onto Wii. The smaller studio of Infinity Ward didn't even port the engine to Wii, it was the much larger Treyarch studio that made it feasible.

Therefore, more advanced games utilising more advanced features and built from the ground up to utilise the hardware found in the HD consoles are going to be even harder to port and probably not feasible given the comparatively low sales.

Seriously? Some of the textures on the Wii version look like they've been made in Paint, poor lighting in areas making certain sections too dark and generally fewer objects. That's not even counting the fact that larger levels have had to be split into smaller parts or that it runs at 30fps rather than 60fps of the HD consoles whilst frequently dipping below 30fps, especially in multiplayer.

The Wii didn't get many ports because even games that are technically fairly simple on the HD consoles (e.g. Call of Duty MW3) were difficult enough to port over. For most developers a port of an HD version was just not financially feasible when they could bring it out on 3 seperate platforms (PS3/360/PC) whilst using the same assets. The lack of programmable shaders in the Wii GPU also seriously hindered possible ports.

OT: WiiU I think will get far more support, at least initially. Even if the next Sony/MS consoles are significantly more powerful, the programmable shaders in the GPU should help with porting games down to the lower power hardware. If the WiiU does well, we may even see some developers choosing to port upwards and adding effects on the more powerful hardware.

"We don't need no stinking western 3rd party games, we've got the best 1st party games out there!"

It might be the Nintedo fans belief, but there's no evidence to support it.
Sony's made 14 games with a 9 or better aggregate review score on Metacritic this gen, Microsoft's made 11, and Nintendo's made 7.