Nintendo's conference was terrible. The worst conference out of everyone by a mile. Everyone hated the wonderbook segment in Sony's E3, Nintendo's entire conference was wonderbook like. You know it is bad when Pikmin 3 was the highlight of the show. The facts are this: For the 2nd year running Nintendo have made a console launch confusing, boring and lacking details and games everyone wants to see i.e. How much is it? What is the Nintendo Network like? Will it be free? Where is Zelda, Where is Smash brothers, where is metriod? When is it launching?  They failed to mention anything that could persuade any xbox or ps3 fans to buy a Wii U. Developers, gamers, journalists and websites agree that Nintendo made a sham of trying to convince people about the Wii U and it will struggle during launch.

Finally I see a true Nintendo fan who actually cares about gaming. Most Nintendo "fans" here still think they rule the world because of its sales. They must be share holders though, otherwise I can't understand how they can be happy with Nintendo.

@bold I couldn't agree more.

The thing I can't agree with is that they made it confusing. They didn't, they made it clear that they aren't doing a good job getting major 3rd party efforts on board, apart from Ubisoft. And even then where was Splinter Cell?

I wouldn't say Nintendo's entire conference was wonderbook like. The theme maybe, but not the content. Pikmin is a core game, and of utmost quality, Batman AC:AE looked very very cool, but then the casual stuff was super alienating.

It doesn't satisfy any of the promises we've heard this far, that Nintendo will not alienate core gamers early on and that they will make the system core-attractive. Really, that's where they failed miserably and it crushed all my hopes. Where was Prime?? Where were Retro? How are they catering to the core, I just DON'T see it!!

Here's to hoping that's just a conference, and by WiiU's launch, we'll see 3rd parties court the system in droves. But I've had enough of having my hopes up to be simply crushed again, I think I give up.

My thought also.  I suppose I am just not the "hardcore" gamer anymore since I don't even give a shit about E3.  E3 has been shit for awhile to me and I hardly give a shit about some news conference that is supposed to be the super bowl event of gaming.  People have too high expectations and apparently Nintendo must release all their IPs at once to satisfy most "core gamers".  Nintendo could come out with a COD/GTA game showing Mario's head being blown off and it still wouldn't be "hardcore" enough due to it having Mario.  Basically, who cares about the "core" gamer considering they are just whining little shits that expect everything yet buy the same shit every year.

What gamers want are new and exciting ip's from Nintendo that cater to a Mature audience so to speak. The are flogging the usual dead horse that is mario and now we have nintendoland(Good god). Yes we know everyone likes mario but people want something new and fresh. You know exactly what games are coming out for the Wii U. There are never any surprises from nintendo anymore that excite the "Hardcore" gamer. Yay another 2D mario, Yay another Smash Brothers, Yay another Mario Kart, Yay another Zelda, Yay another Pokemon. It is same old shit year in, year out. How incredible would it have been if reggie anounced a new game akin to the likes of Halo, The last of US or Beyond: two souls with an awesome trailer that gave you goosebumps when the trailer is finished? The conference had none of that.

Instead it is same old Mario and CO with trailers that could have been from the Wii for all we know. They need to create some new amazing IP that can rival Mario and Metriod and give the Wii U an identity.

Problem is Nintendo's image will always follow them.  Create a "hardcore, mature, graphic" game and most HD console owners would likely throw it under the bus.  Oh it is just from Nintendo...  You are right they could use some new IPs but they don't have to be mature.  That is what the shitty 3rd party companies are for (Capcom is one of the few 3rd party companies that I remotely care about).  You don't see too many Nintendo gamers begging for another External Darkness, Sin & Punishment, Disaster: Day of Crisis, or anything that they have released that was "mature".  How would a game akin to Halo be a "new game" or copying of any current offering.  You complain about sequels but look at almost all the games out.  They are almost all sequels.  Nintendo just has an image problem due to little shit teenagers trying to rebel and look cool along with the "mature" 20 year olds.  They have suffered from this image since the 16 bit era.

Ditto. God Bless Blizzard and Valve!

And what are they doing about it?? Fuck all.

I'm exagerating since Batman was a great show, but it's a late port. AC3 was nice but where are the other upcoming releases? COD, SC, TR. They ALL need to be there, where the fuck are they?

If someone lost E3 it was microsoft. nintendo didnt nailed it as everyone was expecting and SONY had quite a good show on the PS3 side of things. Vita as we all know is doomed and all that. Microsoft though, are gonna have a hard time selling their new system to the hardcores when it comes out. They will have no IP's people arent sick of already.

The Wii U has a good line-up for the holiday, probably better than Xbox 360 and PS3, but the problem I see is what they have to offer for early 2013. Maybe some 3rd Party filler, who knows, but hopefully it's enough steam to make it to E3 2013, when I'm hoping some core franchises will be revealed.

Nintendo has always been a mysterious type of gaming company. They want the awe factor to be there when they release their HD Zelda and 3D Marios and Smash, but if it isn't ready to be seen, sadly they won't show it. Though, I was half-expecting a HD Zelda at this E3 because of the tech demo.

So I'm not angry or anything. Nintendo just wanted to cover the casual base first, offer teaspoons of core offerings with Pikmin, and hope it rides them into next year. Which is fine, but I'm earnestly hoping for some real meat that makes me really want to keep my Wii U in the living room and not in the closet.

If it's any consolation, the 3DS is looking incredibly good now. Looks like I'll be getting one soon.