I think Ubisoft mentioned some things the Gamepad can do for AC3, but they didn't actually show it at Nintendo's Conference. You are correct in that it is not a good strategy on Nintendo's part, but if anything, the launch proves how much Nintendo is relying on 3rd Parties now. The thing with Nintendo's IPs is that they're so good, they typically squash any hopes for 3rd Parties on their systems, but with only Pikmin 3 and Mario Bros I think of it as a more favorable position for them.

The only thing Nintendo really has to convince people to drop 300 dollars at the moment are Pikmin 3 and Mario bros, along with the U-ness of ports. One thing that wasn't mentioned by Nintendo, which should have imo, were the Wii U app offerings, their games like the e-shop on the 3ds. Some of the games on the e-shop for 3ds are really good, so I'm hoping Wii U recieves the same treatment.

I really hope there are a few more Nintendo Directs that helps ease these problems, because it seems Nintendo enjoys using that to announce new games.

I do blame you, because I never bashed the Wii. I'm on VGChartz because I believed in the Wii. I don't believe in this shit I saw yesterday, it will tank.

I blame people like you for making the lives of critical thinkers a dreadful task.

I also saw the demonstration for Sing where the words are on the tablet instead of the TV screen. Now really, how does that make the game any better? It's Karaoke, only this time you have extra crap to hold instead of only needing a microphone. I wouldn't consider that progression.

ZombiU to me looked alright. I liked when he was looking into the tablet and then when he brought it down that zombie was in his face. My problem though is why is it everyone other than Nintendo that is doing somewhat interesting things with the WiiU?

I see many problems in the future for the WiiU, even more so once next gen really starts rolling and Sony and MS bring out much more graphics heavy consoles because let's be honest here... we all know a bunch of devs are making engines tailored to next gen consoles, so where do you think they are going to go?

Also for the record I don't think the Controller isn't revolutionary. I love the thing, but I just think Nintendo is seriously dropped the ball big time.

I was about to ask about that.

Did Nintendo go in depth in terms of what the WiiU online service will provide? What are it's apps? it's options? Video store? Exclusive games out the gate? Does it have an achievement system? I may have missed all of that if it was gone over during one of the events.

In all seriousness I want this console to do good because I want to be able to have my Bioshocks, Final Fantasy, Tales and my Zelda all in one place.

I don't disagree with you (bold), they did drop the ball. But come on, you'll bring the Karaoke as an example as to why the controller isn't revolutionary. There are so many other features shown by Nintendo and by Batman and ZombiU to show that that was a check on the To Do list (not an issue). If girls want to have fun playing Sing, I have no issue with it, but just try not to show it at E3. Nintendoland, on the other hand, is a disaster. People were getting up to leave by the end of the conference, didn't even wait for the fireworks to end. What a shit show.

Extra crap to hold? Okay, use the built in controller microphone. If Sing devs didn't think of that one, who's fault is it. And even then, what about when you hold a mic and a sheet of paper for lyrics. Whatevs this is a non-issue.

ZombiU isn't just alright, it's a big step in the right direction for immersive use of the controller. Another check on the list. And Nintendo IS doing interesting things with the controller. The MiiVerse will be super handy, the browser will be perfect for showing pics and vids to family. That's all good and they also showed asymetric gameplay (big feature), and some swiping to-from the controller to the screen. it's a pass.

But the bullseye, the 3rd party support, the AAA 1st party titles from Retro, the more adult franchises like F-Zero, Starfox, Smash and Prime, they were not there. THAT's where they failed.

You should also blame PS Home....Nintendoland looks like a straight ripoff of that! DAMN YOU SONY!

I'll add it to the OP. lol

From what I understand, based off seeing Sunday's Direct, it probably does have an achievement system. I base this off one of the chat bubbles saying they got an achievement, or something like it. It also has Youtube, hulu, amazon video out of the gate. Game-wise, we have no idea what's in store for that, but the infrastuture is there, and Nintendo also plans to make it so you can download full games at least. But having a good amount of indie titles, or HQ titles like Pushmo was for the 3ds, would be great.

I'm the same as you and want all the games I'm interested in one place, because next-gen looks like it will take it's toll on my wallet.

All I think is, you don´t use singing/dancing/fitness games, ports of 360/PS3 games, Lego (no matter how good it turns out to be), Nintendo Land, etc...to show off a brand new console, a system that, according to specs, is more powerful than the 360 and PS3.

Considering Iwata himself said the Wii U will try to cater to the core first, they should´ve shown at least one game that made the 360/PS3 look old.

Whatever the game was, it didn´t need to be available at launch or launch window, it could come out a year from now but at least it could´ve given core gamers (since they´re Iwata´s target first, in theory) a clear idea that yes, the system is more powerful than the HD twins.

I remember people (correctly) complaining Sony showed a lot of games that were still far from release, but Nintendo seems the complete opposite, they only seem to show games that will soon be released, however the balance is in the middle.Yes, show Pikmin 3, NSMBU and all the games available around launch, but don´t stop there, give us an idea of a holiday 2013 game.

Is it me or is it the people who complain the loudest about Nintendo want it to be more like the other companies.
But if it were more like Sony and Microsoft, then it would not longer be Nintendo. And chances are, people (these same people no doubt) would complain about that too.

Nintendo is Honda. It does what it wants to do. It is solid but not flashy. It is not for everyone. Nevertheless, it is generally successful at doing it.


Mike from Morgantown