Okay, there's absolutely 0 need for the last comment, we know you like bashing Nintendo, but gratuitous trolling is not welcome.

The dual-screen is not the issue here at all, you're completely out of whack. Look at the ZombiU reel for how the controller can be used effectively in an immersive experience. Then, Batman also gave good examples, and lastly some mini-games in *barf* Nintendoland.

So please, find some good arguments, then come back.

Err... okay...? XD

I voted Hmmm Beer! Want to know why? Because I want to relax with a nice cold beer and imagine all te good times I'm going to have with my sexy black Wii U. Keep the faith, Wii U, Wii U rock U!

P.s loved the opening photo!

I don't think it will be as you say. Things like the ones you pointed out can also be used to add more to a game, such as difficulty or a sense of urgency in all that you do.

One example I think fits here perfectly is Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. The game DOES NOT pause and if you go into your inventory, everything around you keeps on chugging along, so it is no different to what you just explained in your last paragraph. I try to change my weapon and while doing so I get demolished by a Black Knight.

You go into your inventory with the tablet and you get demolished by a Zombie. All it means is think things out before you do it and when you do it... hurry the fuck up! LOL!

As long as things are done right everything you just mentioned becomes a non-issue.

We want everything. All the games coming out on 360 and PS3? We want them all.

But some of us (not all of us) also want Zelda and Metroid, some non-Nintendo gamers don't want those, who cares, they don't get them. Halo is at its 4th entry nobody complained. But now NSMB is another beast. Just in 2 years, we're getting NSMB2, U and Super Mario 3D Land (all in the same spirit with shared elements). It's time to puke!

Japan is the only thing Nintendo is doing right at the moment, everything in the West is trending for the worst. I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo suddenly lost market leadership here in the west, mark my words.

They can release NSMB, sure! But when they're catering to the core, it's not time to flaunt NSMB, I'm desperately sorry. As good a game as it is, it's not what the target audience wants!! Prime is closer and close enough, but not NSMB. The target audience is not interested in that for first diet. Dirty seconds? Sure. But not the main course. It's all about catering to an audience, and when it comes to the western core, they failed.

All he's asking for are new IPs in the lines of Uncharted and Halo. How is that so much to ask for, haven't we been accustomed to that for years in the movie industry? What makes video games so different, indulge me. It doesn't need to be a super marine, it can be a good old bounty hunter like Samus, but just something novel. Why is nintendo not part of that revolution that Sony and MS are pioneering, while Sony can shamelessly rip of the move and PABR with no problem? Why is Nintendo ignoring the successes of their rivals like this? Get with the fucking program Nintendo. I want to slap them.

I am not bashing I am just speaking of what looks to be the major problem with every game for the WiiU when the console launches.    In Batman the only good thing was that you are able to direct the batarang with the tablet (something you can already do with your normal controller in the other consoles).   But  when that tablet is required to activate certain things of your suite while the main game on your TV is still running (fighting with a mob); and can not be seen because you are watching the tablet, it fails.   The same thing happens  for ZombiU.   The perfect way to see your inventory in realtime is watching it at the same time as the action is happening on the same screen, like in (I know you will say that I am a fanboy, but you know I am right) The Last Of US.

Speaking about the last comment that bothered you, if the console which has as main purpose gaming, does not allow you to play in an efficient way, it fails the constumer, and in this case you/U are the customer.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

^Oh, don't worry about bursting my bubble, it's already exploded, and it's Nintendo that did it. You have nothing to worry about.

In ZombiU, they showed many cases where both screens heavily interact. I don't have the patience to dish it out for you so do us all a favor and go study the reel, then come back to talk.

The inventory system is just one means of interaction. There will be ways (and we have some demoes of this already) to inject content on the tv screen from the controller screen. We saw videos swiped to the tv screen, and nunchucks. Arming your character with swipes is imho much more convenient than what we saw in the already very excellent TLOU inventory semi-transparent screen.

And if they really wanted to, they could make sure the tablet was transparent and let the TV image pierce through if lifted towards the tv while selecting items (if in a really tight moment of action). So it's all pussyfooting on this argument.

I think this whole situation comes down to the Nintendo/Sony dispute that led to the creation of the Playstation.

Once Sony created the Playstation, marketed it as being really 'cool' (see: WipEout etc.) and brought in a whole new demographic of gamers, the third parties went with them. It was the third-parties that absolutely propelled Sony to dominance in the fifth and sixth gen and gave them so much traction in the industry.

Nintendo could - and should - have done something about it before it was too late. Heck, they should have stopped the Playstation being created by agreeing to a venture with Sony, but their stubborn-ness of cartridges instead of optical discs - and what I can only assume was arrogance that they'd easily beat Sony since they were already beating Sega - led to the loss of third party stuff which never came back.

The Wii has been a nightmare in terms of this. Gamecube had many problems, but at least there was a decent outside developer showing which Nintendo embraced. They have pretty much single-handedly propped up the Wii for its whole lifespan which isn't a road they should have gone down. I'm not saying they shouldn't have made the great first-party stuff - of course they should, but there needed to be more of a push for other things rather than Just Dance and Lego games, and that showed in their E3 conference since they had very little ouside support.

Heck, Mass Effect 3 shows just what a problem it is. Sure, you can dip straight into Mass Effect 3 without any knowledge of the previous two, but it won't be the same - and you won't be able to move your Shepard across, which is a big part of the whole series.

I like that they're trying to entice the third-parties back, but there's a long LONG road to go down before they can - and personally, I don't think Wii-U is the answer. I'm pretty certain they have the financials to prop themselves up until the neXtbox/PS4 come out, which they should have done and built a matching console - but that's just my view.

Also, to all the doomsayers: Boo. Nintendo have weathered far worse storms than this (N64, Gamecube). Even though I think the console won't be a success - they'll still capture a portion of the casual market, and I'm pretty certain they won't lose any money on it. So maybe they'll get it right next time around.

Pikmin 3 is Nintendo's only hope currently, the new Mario game is essentially a rehash of previous 2D Mario Games and with a limitation on 2D Platform gaming it is more difficult to make that genre unique. Nintendo have milked the cow dry this time.

What?! That's a total lie!