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BlkPaladin said:
I think it was G4 or some other site, but they brought out a good point. How many people are going to want to do something like this. It requires extra effort (though not much), especially considering that people today are unwilling to "read" a picture menu, to add extra controls to a game.

In addition the people who are interested in the in-depth information are already using their smart phones etc to look up the information themselves. All in all it comes up as a rather unneeded addition.


The same logic applies to the WiiU, FYI.



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mrstickball said:
BlkPaladin said:
I think it was G4 or some other site, but they brought out a good point. How many people are going to want to do something like this. It requires extra effort (though not much), especially considering that people today are unwilling to "read" a picture menu, to add extra controls to a game.

In addition the people who are interested in the in-depth information are already using their smart phones etc to look up the information themselves. All in all it comes up as a rather unneeded addition.


The same logic applies to the WiiU, FYI.

The difference is the WiiU comes with the tech as standard so if you are making a WiiU games you know everyone will be using the touch screen controller to play unlike the 360 where it is extra, and an unneed edition so late in the platform's life.



I have two hands. When I play games, my two hands are on the controller. I don't want to use my controller to scan something, put it down, and then pick up a tablet to read more information. I don't want to control madden with a tablet.



BlkPaladin said:
mrstickball said:
BlkPaladin said:
I think it was G4 or some other site, but they brought out a good point. How many people are going to want to do something like this. It requires extra effort (though not much), especially considering that people today are unwilling to "read" a picture menu, to add extra controls to a game.

In addition the people who are interested in the in-depth information are already using their smart phones etc to look up the information themselves. All in all it comes up as a rather unneeded addition.


The same logic applies to the WiiU, FYI.

The difference is the WiiU comes with the tech as standard so if you are making a WiiU games you know everyone will be using the touch screen controller to play unlike the 360 where it is extra, and an unneed edition so late in the platform's life.

I understand the logic, but fails to take into account that already there are more people with Xbox 360s and some sort of tablet/smartphone that will work with SmartGlass then the number of Wii U's that will likely sell in the 1st year.  So do you think that developers wouldnt take this into account?  Do you think that Ubisoft isnt thinking hey lets also add the puppet master mode to Just Dance 4?  Etc. Etc.    Believe me publishers will know this. 



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

thx1139 said:
BlkPaladin said:

The difference is the WiiU comes with the tech as standard so if you are making a WiiU games you know everyone will be using the touch screen controller to play unlike the 360 where it is extra, and an unneed edition so late in the platform's life.

I understand the logic, but fails to take into account that already there are more people with Xbox 360s and some sort of tablet/smartphone that will work with SmartGlass then the number of Wii U's that will likely sell in the 1st year.  So do you think that developers wouldnt take this into account?  Do you think that Ubisoft isnt thinking hey lets also add the puppet master mode to Just Dance 4?  Etc. Etc.    Believe me publishers will know this. 

Pretty much what you said, thx. I talked to developers today that indicated that much.

They care that the X360/nextbox has smart glass, and the PS3/4 use the Vita in a similar fashion. It means that instead of not having a WiiU "Master Mode", they will tack it on for all three. They aren't going to care about performance or the fact its standard on the WiiU. They're looking to keep costs as low as possible. If all three systems have a feature - smartglass/tablet, controller, or motion technology, they are going to play to those strengths rather than care to do a one-off and possibly fragment who they can sell to.



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badgenome said:
No, Nintendo beat them to it.



Only Smartglass does alot more. and has been in development longer than WiiU



The Wii U is just a late to the party piece of tech with loads of bits missing. Gone are the days where just a games machine is enough to sell it. We are entering next generation where a lot more people will care what else it does.

Nintendo widely missed the boat, and will begin swimming and drowning trying to catch up.



selnor said:
badgenome said:
No, Nintendo beat them to it.

Only Smartglass does alot more. and has been in development longer than WiiU

I'm not sure about that part, but I meant that Nintendo already made the Wii U tablet irrelevant before Microsoft even showed Smart Glass.



badgenome said:
selnor said:
badgenome said:
No, Nintendo beat them to it.

Only Smartglass does alot more. and has been in development longer than WiiU

I'm not sure about that part, but I meant that Nintendo already made the Wii U tablet irrelevant before Microsoft even showed Smart Glass.

LOL.

I get it now.



mike_intellivision said:
kitler53 said:
i'd rather buy and ipad than a wii U. besides, i already have two iphones so i'm set!

between this, vita integration, ipad in general ... the wii U is far from U-nique and it hasn't even released yet. so irrelevant probably isn't the right word but innovative isn't the right word either.


Just remember, the iPad is going to set you back about $150 more than a WiiU and will be replaced by a better model in a year.

Seriously though, it should be about the games and all this Microsoft presser wanted to make me do was get a new laptop for home before I got stuck with W8.

 

Mike from Moragntown

This. I did it for my first laptop, I got one of the last available with XP before getting stuck with Vista, now I'll have to do the same about Win 7 before Win 8 become the only version installed.

About Smart Glass, MS made it for greed the proprietary and crippled version of a good idea:

- the good idea would be writing protocols, drivers and programs to use smartphones and tablets for those purposes

- a possible proprietary but not excessively crippled version would be to limit the choice to Windows running ones

- the totally crippled proprietary version is allowing only Windows 8

 

Edit: some of the sources cited in the OP say it will be cross-platform, not Win 8-only (for the part regarding the phone or tablet), this could widen its audience and success, but about its effects on WiiU, PS3 already offered many of its functions before and nobody said they make Wii U tablet irrelevant. Anyhow, what prevents Ninty from offering these functions too? 3rd party controllers already exist for Wii, Ninty could make it possible for gamers to use smartphones and tablets with enough functionalities and control axes as additional Wii U tablets.



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