What I tried to say was that if they sold well in Japan they'd have a better chance of winning the generation - but it won't happen because they don't sell well enough. And the only reason they wouldn't be nr 1 is because of the anomaly that were the Wii.

i think japan is always a big bump for nintendo and sony in therms of worldwide sales, actually microsoft dont have any chance to be the number 1 in sales because of that

The Wii sold 12 milion units in Japan. Are you saying that X360 couldn't possibly outsell any console by more than that outside of Japan?

Like, if we go on Nintendo Failure part, yes Nintendo failed when they got better consoles in terms of power comparing with Sony consoles, and about what you say on lacking 3DS power, I think 3DS has power enough for now, If you see Mario 3D Land, Resident Evil Revelations, Kid Icarus, without 3D running on 3DS not the internet pictures it looks great, looking at Vita all powerfull house, i'm disapointed, with games like Uncharted and Resistance Burning Skies, especially Resistance that looks almost to a Wii game sligtly improved... you can argue that its first games on gen, but 3DS is to in first lifesteps if Nintendo is the less powerfull like PS1 and pS2 the less powerfull Nintendo will win in terms of sales once again, ofcorse they'll not do as great as Wii/DS but they'll be in front of their rivals

I can see them 1st place this generation. Now that nintendo has an HD console a lot of "harcore gamers" are finally going to get their mario fix... Obviously they will keep it hidden somewhere so noone can see it and they will continue calling nintendo kiddy-casual and such...

I will add to your argument. Totally agree PC plus gamepad on HDTV. Many people do this now.

Guess what else you can hookup to a TV. A galaxy S phone + MHL + joypad (basically a playsation controller). and wolla, gaming  on hdtv using your phone. A lot of the newer gaming coming out are starting to support the joypad. Not to mention all the emulators for classics which also work with joypad.

The main reason people use to buy consoles was because when you put the game in you knew it would work out of the box. A console cycle lasts about 5 years on average means you know a game that comes out at the end of the life cycle will still work on your console (unless it is skyrim on PS3). With PC sometimes there was compadibility issue or your hardware simply got old real quick and you could not play some games. Considering consoles are becoming more and more like PCs with patches etc.. it almost makes it more viable to get a PC as game patches NEVER vanish of the internet. With consoles and game patching what guarantee have you got that you can patch the game again in 10 years time when you want to relieve a classic game with your future son/daughter? Imagine skyrim on PS3, unless you leave it installed with the patches, I doubt you will be able to hook up the PS3 online 10 years from now to dowknload the patches again. Meaning you got a useless game which cannot be played.

I can't believe the amount of posts it's getting lol!

Even well after I stopped responding

Yet Sony came in 3rd despite the "bump" from Japanese sales. Japan just does not make a console the "winner." They have a little more power over the placement of HH's but that's a different story.

Woah, careful slinging all of those facts around - might get accused of making an "incorherent ramble" by someone who doesn't even know how to type.

You guys are underestimating Japan. If a console/handheld comes that really interests them and has mass appeal, it will certainly benefit in terms of sales. Japan is a gaming nation. They have an entire district dedicated to gaming, among other things.