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Chark on 25 May 2012
kowenicki said:
Soleron said:
kowenicki said:
DirtyP2002 said:

I know Sony desperatly needs to monetize the PSN, but this would cannibalize their software sales. I don't think this is a clever move for them.


this was my concern for MS and Sony too... surely any integration of Onlive just reduces income for them from the main profit driver... the games themselves.

Have to wait and see how it works but I dont get the financials of it right now.

1. Revenue sharing between Onlive and the console maker

2. Any game available on both PS3 and OnLive is going to be a much better experience on PS3, because of bandwidth limits, connection issues and wanting to own the game and its data yourself. The games people will use OnLive for are the games that they'd run on PC if  they had a good enough PC.

1.  by far the greater share for Onlive.. 

2. I accept that, but if I am a subscriber to onlive (£6.99 per month) and a game that is on both PS3 and Onlive becomes available, then it is essentially free via Onlive versus £40 to buy the game...

 

Anyway lets see how MS and Sony implement this in the future, if at all... there is no way one or the other will allow their competitor to be the only ones doing this.

1. You can't be sure Onlive would be getting the larger share, so don't assume.

To add my own point, this might not be cannabalism. In fact, it might be a good pre-emptive move. Onlive's and other cloud services are eating into profits anyway. Why let the competition grow when you can integrate.



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Troll_Whisperer on 25 May 2012

I'm not sure I like the way things are going, but as long as I can ignore this and buy my physical games I'm alright. Let's see how the implement this.



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oldschoolfool on 25 May 2012

what's onlive? never heard of it.



Conegamer on 25 May 2012

I wouldn't say this is really Sony's style, and I could see them losing a fair bit of money out of it TBH.

Too early. Not gonna happen.



 

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torok on 25 May 2012

Actually Sony could block PS3 games, allowing only streaming games that aren't on PS3 (you could play Halo, Gears of War or Diablo 3). I'm not sure about the legal implications of that.

Another possibilities:

- Allowing Vita owners to stream PS3 games or PS3 owners to stream Vita games that they've bought. You buy Marvel VS. Capcom on Vita and they allow you to stream the PS3 version. You'll be paying for that, OnLive gets a share, Sony gets a share and Capcom gets a share (it's their game).
- Allowing the stream of PS3 games on a PS4 , solving the lack of backward compatibility and making the console less expensive by removing components included for this reason. This extra components really costs a lot. Removing them and selling a cheaper console would make a lot of sense.



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Chark on 25 May 2012

I like that, torok. Though playing xbox exclusives are not on the table, there is no reason that this is just the typical cloud service. They could use the cloud to include PS3 on PS4 while avoiding issues, though personally I think people should be happy to hang on to their PS3s after PS4. Maybe Sony has a game rental service they are rolling out. Cloud streaming would be better for full game trails, which would dramatically effect consumer behavior on the PS store, having such ease and access to trying out games. This could be the end of the game demo. Anyway, more stuff on PS Plus the better.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

thranx on 25 May 2012
torok said:

Actually Sony could block PS3 games, allowing only streaming games that aren't on PS3 (you could play Halo, Gears of War or Diablo 3). I'm not sure about the legal implications of that.

Another possibilities:

- Allowing Vita owners to stream PS3 games or PS3 owners to stream Vita games that they've bought. You buy Marvel VS. Capcom on Vita and they allow you to stream the PS3 version. You'll be paying for that, OnLive gets a share, Sony gets a share and Capcom gets a share (it's their game).
- Allowing the stream of PS3 games on a PS4 , solving the lack of backward compatibility and making the console less expensive by removing components included for this reason. This extra components really costs a lot. Removing them and selling a cheaper console would make a lot of sense.

nintendo, ps3 and xbox eclusive games are already not on the on live service. Neither is diablo. one of the reasons i haven't subscribed to it.



yo_john117 on 25 May 2012

Man that sounds like a very cool idea (if its going to work the way I think it will). I hope Microsoft follows suit and at least gives it a try.



Acevil on 25 May 2012
Troll_Whisperer said:
I'm not sure I like the way things are going, but as long as I can ignore this and buy my physical games I'm alright. Let's see how the implement this.


See I have nothing against steam (because worse comes to worse, I can crack my titles if need be, assuming steam shuts down) or GOG, but this really means that the game is somewhere else, where if all of gaming moved towards this direction really you have no real ownership. 



 

Sal.Paradise on 25 May 2012

Stream PS4 demos to your PS3

Demo/rent a game with zero download/installation time.

PS1/PS2 backwards compatibility on Vita/PS4/PS3 via streaming.

Stream all PS3 games to Vita.

Play PC games on your Vita/PS4 (I'm dreaming).

Anything else?