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This is actually really incredible news.

It actually makes a lot of sense considering some of the benefits of PS+. For example, with a PS+ you can demo a game by playing the first hour. Combining a streaming service will allow games to play that first hour immediately instead of having to download and install the game. Overall a time saver and bandwidth saver (if your ISP limits that).

The future of gaming is this type of service. A lot of it comes down to the stubbornness of gamers (which is huge) and the economics of it all. There's also the problem of latency which might make the service prohibitive in some areas.

If every year there's a new Call of Duty, for example, and the cost of a new game is $60, a monthly subscription of $5 is roughly equivalent. However, if you plan to purchase multiple games, the pay off is much greater. A subscription fee of $15 is equivalent to buying 3 games a year.

The best part about the service is the ability to try out games. Some games are great for the first few hours, and then become repetitive. This gives the opportunity to try out games without the need of having to spend the initial cost of the game.

It's basically all good news.



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torok said:

Actually Sony could block PS3 games, allowing only streaming games that aren't on PS3 (you could play Halo, Gears of War or Diablo 3). I'm not sure about the legal implications of that.

Another possibilities:

- Allowing Vita owners to stream PS3 games or PS3 owners to stream Vita games that they've bought. You buy Marvel VS. Capcom on Vita and they allow you to stream the PS3 version. You'll be paying for that, OnLive gets a share, Sony gets a share and Capcom gets a share (it's their game).
- Allowing the stream of PS3 games on a PS4 , solving the lack of backward compatibility and making the console less expensive by removing components included for this reason. This extra components really costs a lot. Removing them and selling a cheaper console would make a lot of sense.

Why should Microsoft publish their games on onlive? They don't. You can't play them at all on onlive.

So if Sony blocks games that are available on PS3 as well, you basically kill 95% of the games available on onlive. Who would pay a monthly subscription for that?



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

Conegamer said:
I wouldn't say this is really Sony's style, and I could see them losing a fair bit of money out of it TBH.

Too early. Not gonna happen.


not sony's style?? 

trying to get their hardware to do anything/everything regardless of the buiness sense sounds exactly like sony to me.

sony let's you download movies via psn (not to mention blu ray) but they also support netflix, hulu, amazon, a couple others i can't remember.

sony let valve do their thing to link to steam for portal 2 bypassing typical patch release what nots.

sony has the psn+ program that literally gives games away and I can attest to it significantlly slowing down my game purchasing rate.

.. no no, this is exactly sony's style.  it is also part of why i've grown to love them. 



DirtyP2002 said:

I know Sony desperatly needs to monetize the PSN, but this would cannibalize their software sales. I don't think this is a clever move for them.


Which is why I saw this will be exclusively used to stream game demos.



kowenicki said:
DirtyP2002 said:

I know Sony desperatly needs to monetize the PSN, but this would cannibalize their software sales. I don't think this is a clever move for them.


this was my concern for MS and Sony too... surely any integration of Onlive just reduces income for them from the main profit driver... the games themselves.

Have to wait and see how it works but I dont get the financials of it right now.


What if Sony just buys out Gaikai? Surely they're not worth too much.

OnLive is probably out of their reach.



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Chark said:
I like that, torok. Though playing xbox exclusives are not on the table, there is no reason that this is just the typical cloud service. They could use the cloud to include PS3 on PS4 while avoiding issues, though personally I think people should be happy to hang on to their PS3s after PS4. Maybe Sony has a game rental service they are rolling out. Cloud streaming would be better for full game trails, which would dramatically effect consumer behavior on the PS store, having such ease and access to trying out games. This could be the end of the game demo. Anyway, more stuff on PS Plus the better.

That is really interesting. Downloading demos is already a pain (come on, 4GB of data for a single Killzone demo is too much). We could stream demos and rent games. The last one is a great bussiness, Sony doesn't make money from renting (one game is used by hundreds of users) and that would put them on the rent bussiness.

 

thranx said:

nintendo, ps3 and xbox eclusive games are already not on the on live service. Neither is diablo. one of the reasons i haven't subscribed to it.

I thought all theses titles were available, thanks for the information



DirtyP2002 said:
torok said:

Actually Sony could block PS3 games, allowing only streaming games that aren't on PS3 (you could play Halo, Gears of War or Diablo 3). I'm not sure about the legal implications of that.

Another possibilities:

- Allowing Vita owners to stream PS3 games or PS3 owners to stream Vita games that they've bought. You buy Marvel VS. Capcom on Vita and they allow you to stream the PS3 version. You'll be paying for that, OnLive gets a share, Sony gets a share and Capcom gets a share (it's their game).
- Allowing the stream of PS3 games on a PS4 , solving the lack of backward compatibility and making the console less expensive by removing components included for this reason. This extra components really costs a lot. Removing them and selling a cheaper console would make a lot of sense.

Why should Microsoft publish their games on onlive? They don't. You can't play them at all on onlive.

So if Sony blocks games that are available on PS3 as well, you basically kill 95% of the games available on onlive. Who would pay a monthly subscription for that?

Correct, they shouldn't. And they won't. But, Sony could make a nice service:

- Play PS3 games on Vita

- Vita games on PS3

- Play demos without downloading

- Rent PS3/Vita games

Of course, we would pay for this service. But sounds like a good deal (for us and for Sony too).



NiKKoM said:

you can try some demo games like bulletstorm ME3, crysis 2 on http://www.gaikai.com/games

with my internet speed everything runs nice

Holy fuckballs ! Thats 82.09 times my download speed O_O



Hmmm, I think this service would chew through my 60 GB a month data limit pretty damn fast. Just like Netflix this isn't an option for me and a ton of Canadians who are at the mercy of money hungry ISPs like Bell and Rogers.