everyone who was a part of the pre offering was super rich, this the rich got richer and meanwhile the stock did absolutely nothing since its overvalued and by time the regular folks got in, they made nothing... what a world

No. It doesn't matter what a studio does, they still are valuable and they and their games count. You need to get off your high horse and realize that just because you don't like it, doesn't mean many, many others do.

I liked the Fable is dead part. Fable on Xbox 360 sold 8.8 million copies (Just Fable II and III) accoridng to VGC. If you include digital distribution it easily passed 10 million. That is pretty massive for 2 games on one console isn't it?

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/13/fable-2-episodic-experiment-deemed-massively-successful-by-mol/

Actually Fable series on 360 alone without Fable: Heroes and digital copies outsold Killzone series and InFamouse series combined. You get the idea.

And we need to stop with "Game X / studio X does not count, because they make only Kinect/downloadable games". I own 7 Kinect games I spent about $300 on and I enjoyed them for the most part. How can these titles not count?! And don't get me started with downloadable games. I had some of the best gaming experiences of this generation thanks to downloadable titles! (Braid, Plants vs Zombies, Risk, Shadow Complex, Sonic classics, Monkey Island, Splosion Man, Trials etc).

I personally don't like LBP at all. It is a plattformer with a map-editor. I have seen this back in 1996 and to me it is not innovative at all. Of course the share online is new, but 99.9% of the user generated content really sucks. But that is just IMO. I would never tell anybody that does not like the game that it does not count.

MS hired a lot of talent in the past 24 months and I can't wait to find out, what they are working on. On the other hand, Sony lost 2 first party and 1 second party studio. Zipper and BigBig are gone and Insomniac is multiplat now.

It has nothing to do with being on a high horse, the fact of the matter is Microsoft desperately needs talent and exclusives. Besides Halo and Gears now, they hardly have anything to offer for the core gamer. It does matter what they do. Sony teams are developing multiple projects and they are investing in most of their current IP's while still producing new ones. Microsoft needs to do this or next gen they will pay for it greatly. They already now in some ways.

It's a kids game. If that's what you are into, go for it but it just isn't anywhere near the quality of Infamous.

lol first of all a kids game can be good quality as well, then , it's not a kids game, it's great for adults as well (sure not for those who think they are so cool they can't play viva pinata or mario games) and then, great that you can decide which are games and studios worth gaming and which not and just because you say it, these games aren't as good as games for playstation^^  but you know what? that doesn't make it true.

kinect games? "don't count"

viva pinata? "no its a kids game"

what counts? "games i play on playstation 3!

yeah right...

and the best is, i have the feeling that you did never play it. you just saw a few pictures and the you now which game is "better quality".

The Fable series has been one of the most bundled series for the 360, surely you aren't serious? and yes, Killzone has been bundled but not that much at all.  Microsoft is killing Fable. I hear more and more from most of its fans how much gets taken away which each game and how each sequel fails to live up to the hype.  Now by destroying their IP with a casual downloadable game and a kinect game for a core gamer franchise, it won't be long before Fable is done. Plus, Peter is gone anyways.

Are these studious meaningless? No never said that and obviously for the casual market it's of great benefit but MS has wasted far too much money on casual development studios when they need core games! Despite the success of the Kinect, Microsoft isn't ever going to compete with Nintendo for the casual market....ever. While they have been screwing themselves over by ignoring the core games and establishing IP's, Sony continues to win over the core games with the sheer amount of exclusives, IP's and support for core games.

Also, LittleBigPlanet is hailed for it's innovation. It's a platform to make games, not just a casual game that holds zero value to any core gamer.

If you are playing a game like that...you really aren't a core games which is a lot of what this is about. How Microsoft has failed to provide for the core and hardcore gamers. Mario has games for everyone, Vina Pinata is just a game for children. I could be so much harsh but really it's just deeply disappointing how little Microsoft is investing for their platform and I just want them to. That's why I love Sony and will always follow them because they actually care. Nintendo too.

i play videogames for 25 years now, if c64, nes or whatever. and my favourite game of the last 10 years is ninja gaiden black so don't tell me about core or not. viva pinata isn't only for kids. it is a game which is also great for kids but that doesn't mean it's only for kids.  it's just better for them than call of duty, killzone or halo but not worse for others just because the pinatas are made to please kids.

All Playstation fans and M$ Haters should delete their facebook so the Facebook stocks will fall and M$ will lose some money GO GO GO! No? I knew you were trolls from the beginning....