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Was the Wii a fad?

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d21lewis on 10 May 2012
Mazty said:
superchunk said:
Mazty said:

You're ignoring the audience it's aimed at. A game console should be sold for it's games, not for the controller. To sell on the controller is a fad. You don't buy a car because the seats are nice while ignoring the ride. 

A fad for gamers - a fad aimed at gamers. It's not a complex notion...Short-lived is relative though. Fashion fads last longer then playground fads as it depends on audience. 

Motion controls have been a big part of this gen, but that doesn't mean it isn't a fad. If motion controls are not adopted as the controls of the future, then motion controls are a fad as they are a one-hit (as in this gen) wonder.  The wii is a fad as it's not aimed for gamers. It offers nothing benefical to gaming, and therefore, is a fad. 


That is the craziest logic and biggest load of rubbish I've ever read on VGC... ever.

Motion controls have been copied by both major competitors and will be on all three next gen consoles. (100% for Nintendo/MS)

Wii's game library hit every genre. I know because I've bought one from each. Additionally, it has nothing to do with your skewed definition of a gamer.

Wii is a gaming console and aimed to make people want to play games. It did that very well. Its only fault was its hardware weakness as compared to its competitors and thus losing all AAA 3rd party support.

Furthermore, the motion controls in themselves and the idea that how you play is just as important as what you play is always a great benefit to gaming that is always pioneered by Nintendo.

Kinect sales would suggest it's a fad:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/327350/kinect-sales-pattern-unhealthy-ubisoft/

So what if  the wii had a game for every genre? If they didn't sell well, which they haven't, then it's not a console focused on core gamers. 
If the console is aimed at making people play games, why are game sales so low for non bundled games? 
What's the benefit of an inaccurate, high latency controller for gaming?


Kinect is a peripheral.  It's like a Zapper, Power Pad, Power Glove, Eye Toy, etc.



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Mazty on 10 May 2012
sensebringer said:

New Super Mario Bros. sold more than 20 millions before been bundle. Try harder.

Oh? Would you happen to have a source for that?

 

d21lewis said:
Mazty said:

Kinect sales would suggest it's a fad:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/327350/kinect-sales-pattern-unhealthy-ubisoft/

So what if  the wii had a game for every genre? If they didn't sell well, which they haven't, then it's not a console focused on core gamers. 
If the console is aimed at making people play games, why are game sales so low for non bundled games? 
What's the benefit of an inaccurate, high latency controller for gaming?


Kinect is a peripheral.  It's like a Zapper, Power Pad, Power Glove, Eye Toy, etc.

 

But if motion controls were the future then surely it's sales would be consistant? 

Soriku said:
Mazty said:

What are you on about? The Wii has sold ~45% more consoles then the 360, yet the wii game sales do not reflect anything close to 45% greater sales. They are actually almost identical. Fact. Just look at the numbers...

 


OK...what point are you trying to make though? The Wii got less prominent support from third party developers, it should be expected that sales don't reach the 45% greater sales. That's not the Wii's fault. Despite this, if you look at the chart the DS has sold less SW than the Wii despite unit sales being signficantly higher so it's not like the Wii has heavily underperformed or anything.

My point is that the sales show the Wii is not a console for gamers, therefore the wii is a fad because it isn't made for gamers. 

 



d21lewis on 10 May 2012
Mazty said:
sensebringer said:

New Super Mario Bros. sold more than 20 millions before been bundle. Try harder.

Oh? Would you happen to have a source for that?

 

d21lewis said:
Mazty said:

Kinect sales would suggest it's a fad:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/327350/kinect-sales-pattern-unhealthy-ubisoft/

So what if  the wii had a game for every genre? If they didn't sell well, which they haven't, then it's not a console focused on core gamers. 
If the console is aimed at making people play games, why are game sales so low for non bundled games? 
What's the benefit of an inaccurate, high latency controller for gaming?


Kinect is a peripheral.  It's like a Zapper, Power Pad, Power Glove, Eye Toy, etc.

 

But if motion controls were the future then surely it's sales would be consistant? 

 

Considering the number of million sellers for Kinect, I think it's the most successful peripheral in the history of ever.  Does that not mean anything?



Mazty on 10 May 2012
d21lewis said:

Considering the number of million sellers for Kinect, I think it's the most successful peripheral in the history of ever.  Does that not mean anything?


Depends how you are looking at it. If you are a MS investor, it's great because it will have most likely recouped it's costs and then some, however it doesn't look like it will have a long term return. 

As a gamer it doesn't mean jack because the sales show it isn't consistantly popular so it obviously isn't the next big thing for gaming; it's a one hit wonder. 



sensebringer on 10 May 2012
Mazty said:
sensebringer said:

New Super Mario Bros. sold more than 20 millions before been bundle. Try harder.

Oh? Would you happen to have a source for that?

 

d21lewis said:
Mazty said:

Kinect sales would suggest it's a fad:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/327350/kinect-sales-pattern-unhealthy-ubisoft/

So what if  the wii had a game for every genre? If they didn't sell well, which they haven't, then it's not a console focused on core gamers. 
If the console is aimed at making people play games, why are game sales so low for non bundled games? 
What's the benefit of an inaccurate, high latency controller for gaming?


Kinect is a peripheral.  It's like a Zapper, Power Pad, Power Glove, Eye Toy, etc.

 

But if motion controls were the future then surely it's sales would be consistant? 

 

New Super Mario Bros started to be Bundle with the Wii the red Wii and when Nintendo launched the Wii that lacks gamecube ports. November 2010 and October 23, 2011. Check product details at amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Console-Super-Mario-Brothers-nintendo/dp/B005QWYKOE/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1336701487&sr=1-3

 

At December 2010, New Super Mario Bros. had sold 20,956,187.

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/35076/new-super-mario-bros-wii/Global/

 



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d21lewis on 10 May 2012
Mazty said:
d21lewis said:

Considering the number of million sellers for Kinect, I think it's the most successful peripheral in the history of ever.  Does that not mean anything?


Depends how you are looking at it. If you are a MS investor, it's great because it will have most likely recouped it's costs and then some, however it doesn't look like it will have a long term return. 

As a gamer it doesn't mean jack because the sales show it isn't consistantly popular so it obviously isn't the next big thing for gaming; it's a one hit wonder. 

There are other factors that we have to consider, though.  The PS Move has crappy support (when it comes to games that are designed specifically for the device).  Kinect has great support but the device only supports certain types of games and it isn't as accurate as we need it to be.  Comparing these add-ons to existing systems to the Wii--a console designed entirely around motion control?  Now, who has the flawed logic?



DieAppleDie on 10 May 2012

Mazty is a fad



d21lewis on 10 May 2012
DieAppleDie said:
Mazty is a fad

Mazty has been in this thread for a long time.  He is also not catching on.  I argue that he is not a fad.



Valdney on 10 May 2012

The wii was sold out for 3 freaking years in the USA. It sold well in the last two holiday seasons despite not having any system seller released for it. How can you call that a fad? The Wii was a monopoly of the arcade market, nothing more nothing less.



sensebringer on 10 May 2012
Mazty said:
sensebringer said:

New Super Mario Bros. sold more than 20 millions before been bundle. Try harder.

Oh? Would you happen to have a source for that?

 

d21lewis said:
Mazty said:

Kinect sales would suggest it's a fad:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/327350/kinect-sales-pattern-unhealthy-ubisoft/

So what if  the wii had a game for every genre? If they didn't sell well, which they haven't, then it's not a console focused on core gamers. 
If the console is aimed at making people play games, why are game sales so low for non bundled games? 
What's the benefit of an inaccurate, high latency controller for gaming?


Kinect is a peripheral.  It's like a Zapper, Power Pad, Power Glove, Eye Toy, etc.

 

But if motion controls were the future then surely it's sales would be consistant? 

Soriku said:
Mazty said:

What are you on about? The Wii has sold ~45% more consoles then the 360, yet the wii game sales do not reflect anything close to 45% greater sales. They are actually almost identical. Fact. Just look at the numbers...

 


OK...what point are you trying to make though? The Wii got less prominent support from third party developers, it should be expected that sales don't reach the 45% greater sales. That's not the Wii's fault. Despite this, if you look at the chart the DS has sold less SW than the Wii despite unit sales being signficantly higher so it's not like the Wii has heavily underperformed or anything.

 

My point is that the sales show the Wii is not a console for gamers, therefore the wii is a fad because it isn't made for gamers. 

 

 

Also Mario Kart Wii first bundle came on May 15, 2011.

Mario Kart sales since launch to December 2009: 20,661,738

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/6968/mario-kart-wii/Global/

 

Any question?