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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DanneSandin said:
_crazy_man_ said:

It's doing fine in Japan, it's in the west that its struggling.


How come both Vita and 3DS is struggling in the west? 3DS is doing fairly well I guess, but it really should be doing a whole lot better... Is it that missing 2nd analog circle/stick? ;P


Cheap Smartphone games should be the main reason. It wasn't nearly as widespread during the DS/PSP generation as it is now.

But isn't smartphones wide spread in Japan as well?



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DanneSandin said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DanneSandin said:

How come both Vita and 3DS is struggling in the west? 3DS is doing fairly well I guess, but it really should be doing a whole lot better... Is it that missing 2nd analog circle/stick? ;P


Cheap Smartphone games should be the main reason. It wasn't nearly as widespread during the DS/PSP generation as it is now.

But isn't smartphones wide spread in Japan as well?


Not sure, but they are well known for loving their portables. For instance, Super Mario 3D Land has already outsold Super Mario Galaxy 1/2 in Japan.



kowenicki said:

Becasue it knew what it was... it was a handheld with a USP.  The Vita USP seems to be that it is a miniature PS3.... home console gaming in your hand... one question... why?

When Miyamoto talks about software I dont think he is talking about games (like most here seem to think - games being in short supply early on is a given).... he is talking about the device itself... its firmware... its purpose... its raison d'etre.

By bold you mean the software vision, on the long run?

In terms of firmware, I know that the Vita has the PSN, and the 3DS has the e-shop. One thing I know for certain is that the e-shop was highly successful from the get-go. We've read it said that the e-shop has a high user subscription and visit rate. I remember being one such customer. There are social features on both and I think they're comparable. Granted, the Mii Plaza was taken from the Wii mentality and art direction, so it's a win whichever way you put it, but I still believe the Vita has some very compelling social features as well (not 100% sure though).

There also were games that were more compelling for the 3DS than for the Vita I believe, in terms of broader appeal. LBP2 is to come out for the Vita, and that was one such title, but it hasn't released yet.

As for why (the USP)? Why the Vita? I would say because it is convenient, consumable (small), portable (within the house if you will, if not on the go), and reasonably affordable. I believe that if it were priced a little below 200$ and properly marketed it would be doing much better atm.

my 2 cents, they aren't worth alot tbh, I'm neither a dedicated Sony fan, neither a Vita owner, mostly a Nintendo fan. I do see possibilities but I'm not sure Sony is handling things right tbh.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DanneSandin said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DanneSandin said:

How come both Vita and 3DS is struggling in the west? 3DS is doing fairly well I guess, but it really should be doing a whole lot better... Is it that missing 2nd analog circle/stick? ;P


Cheap Smartphone games should be the main reason. It wasn't nearly as widespread during the DS/PSP generation as it is now.

But isn't smartphones wide spread in Japan as well?


Not sure, but they are well known for loving their portables. For instance, Super Mario 3D Land has already outsold Super Mario Galaxy 1/2 in Japan.

oh snap...!

It's sad to see how the West has succumbed to mobile gaming... I never play anything on my phone! well, like 5 minutes a month :P



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Panama said:
That journalist is bad and should feel bad, talk about taking Shiggy's quote out of context.

How is it bad? Is it something in the link? The OP seems to be perfectly fine.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DanneSandin said:
_crazy_man_ said:

It's doing fine in Japan, it's in the west that its struggling.


How come both Vita and 3DS is struggling in the west? 3DS is doing fairly well I guess, but it really should be doing a whole lot better... Is it that missing 2nd analog circle/stick? ;P


Cheap Smartphone games should be the main reason. It wasn't nearly as widespread during the DS/PSP generation as it is now.

That isn't the whole reason. 3DS and Vita just don't seem to have much appeal in the West. Other than the Mario Games. Japan has many more games than the West does so it is doing better over there. USA isn't bad but Europe is horrible. (Despite it being near US's sales.) It should pick up this Holiday, a lot, though.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DanneSandin said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DanneSandin said:

How come both Vita and 3DS is struggling in the west? 3DS is doing fairly well I guess, but it really should be doing a whole lot better... Is it that missing 2nd analog circle/stick? ;P


Cheap Smartphone games should be the main reason. It wasn't nearly as widespread during the DS/PSP generation as it is now.

But isn't smartphones wide spread in Japan as well?


Not sure, but they are well known for loving their portables. For instance, Super Mario 3D Land has already outsold Super Mario Galaxy 1/2 in Japan.

Also a very high percentage a Japanese spend a lot of time on the train. The average office worker in Tokyo spends two hours commuting to work, round trip. This gives them more time to play longer games and opens the doors up for more portable playtime.



BasilZero said:

Yep, he didnt really bash it, infact if anyone is to blame mostly its the developers who fail to act on making software for the system, the same can be said for the 3DS when it was first released, all those rumored cancellations and backing out is unnecessary.

I'm also waiting for the developer who will step up to make and release games on the Vita *_*!

I'm hoping for Squareenix to take the mantle though just like they did with the PSP but would love to be surprised by any other company though, hoping to be shocked at E3 in a good way xD!

Square Enix is one of those compaies that goes where the sales are. In that case, it won't happen.



o_O.Q said:
wonder what his honest comments would have been on the 3ds at this point after launch

That's the thing. He went on to say in the same interview that the 3DS had the same problem at launch. Selective quoting is awesome though.

"When we launched the 3DS hardware we didn't have Super Mario 3D Land, we didn't have Mario Kart 7, we didn't have Kid Icarus: Uprising,"

"We were striving to have all of these ready for the launch, but we weren't able to deliver them at that time. We were kind of hoping that people would, nevertheless, buy into the product, find 3DS hardware promising, but looking back we have to say we realise the key software was missing when we launched the hardware."



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