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Which of the big 3 had the most potential to "win" this gen?

Microsoft 17 12.88%
 
Sony 79 59.85%
 
Nintendo 36 27.27%
 
Total:132
Turkish said:
Sony failed at marketing this gen

Nintendo failed with the motion controls this gen, I dont see myself trying to play a Wii 10 years from now for nostalgia sake, imagine trying to fire up Skyward Sword again and try to learn how to play the Motion+ and setting up the sensor bar

Microsoft failed with the RROD, 55% failure rate is just unacceptable. And the most shocking thing is, MS knew about the RROD before 360 launch but they still released it on the market, for that 1 year headstart.

55? Link?

I remember it being around 30%, which is still really bad, but 55 is just shocking



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Mummelmann said:
NintendoPie said:
I would say Sony. They have the highest selling console, the PS2, and they could've done something just as great with the PS3. (Don't ask me what made the PS2 so popular, I don't know.) Sony did something right the generation before last gen. that they didn't do with the PS3.


I think that a large part of the PS2's success can be attributed to the failings of the competition.

lmao that's a good one



Consumers failed by taking fanboyism to a whole new level



NintendoPie said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
NintendoPie said:
I would say Sony. They have the highest selling console, the PS2, and they could've done something just as great with the PS3. (Don't ask me what made the PS2 so popular, I don't know.) Sony did something right the generation before last gen. that they didn't do with the PS3.


can't stay number one forever with rivals like ninity and MS. someone has to be the victim, and this time it was Sony. no console maker has ever had 3 back to back consecutive wins unless you look at ninty in the handheld department. the last 4 gen's (7th gen. isn't over yet. you could argue the 6th is still going cause PS2 continues to sale) have seen ninty 2 consecutive wins, and Sony 2 consecutive wins.

your statement is black and white, and not realistic. it's not sound logic to say, "because sony won the 5th and 6th gen's, they should have done better this (7th)gen. in that case, ninty would have won 4 straight. it jut doesn't work like that.

you hear about iphone until the hype die's down, then you hear about how good android is. try not being so black and white. you can't pre-write the story before the movie starts. you have to do it at least 2 yr's in advance.

What? Why are you criticizing what I posted so much? It was just my opinion.

have you forgotten what site you're on? i'm not criticizing you. this is my perspective on winning and losing. i have to say Sony did both the best. they still feel, and act like they are number one when they have lost billions and my still end up selling more consoles then Wii/360, but will still have lost the 7th gen. to ninty.

all i'm saying is open your statement, and try not to focus so much on what a company has done in past yr's, but on what they'er doing now. yes Sony disappointed/shocked many a people, and fans with how they've done this gen.  but a winning streak, simply comes to an end.

also, if you don't want your post picked apart, try expanding your opinions to a more open perspective, instead of this narrow box you post in. my perspective is to open and that's why i rarely (amongst other reasons) ever get quoted.



melbye said:
Consumers failed by taking fanboyism to a whole new level

i'll never agree with anything more then i agree with this.



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People talk about the price of the PS3 being the main problem, which is undoubtedly true, however their were additional major contributing factors.

If the PS3 had released at a lower cost, say in line with that of the Xbox, then the PS3's first years on the market would have perhaps been better. However I dont believe this would have had an effect on the success of the Wii. The Wii managed to carve out a totally new market...bringing a host of new casual players to the console market.

This would have effected the 360's initial success perhaps, but not for long. The 360 did so many things right this gen. Great graphics off the bat, new IP's that had addictive online play, a proper online infrastructure, etc.

My point is, many people blame Sony for the downfall of the Playstation brand this gen, which is true to an extent. However the strong competition and innovation of their competitors would have ultimately led to a decrease in market share this gen for Sony. It was unavoidable imo.



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To be honest, i don`t know who messed up the most: Sony or Nintendo.

Sony started really bad, specially after winning the previous generation so easily. After that, how could Sony do so wrong? Sony failed because they thought that they could reinvent the wheel again. First they brought the DVD to the masses, now they would bring Blue-ray. An overpriced console is still an overpriced console no matter how powerful.
And going against the Wii? That didn`t help it either. And the first desing of the console was just bad.
Still, it`s mighty impressive to see how Sony changed things and despite it`s really bad start, bad press it could still put up a fight and be so close to Xbox 360 who came out one year earlier.

Nintendo on the other hand started with a bang. Sold out for monts and months in a row.
Than came 2010 and the games started being absent from Wii`s release schedule.
Nintendo, not just 3rd parties had no good games since DKCR. The only two system sellers were Zelda and Mario and Sonic.
Nintendo stopped selling the console: no great system sellers, no redesigns, no Wii with different colours, nothing major to try and push the console. No Zelda bundle? No MP9 bundle with an extra remote? No more Nintendo Selects?



I'd say Sony made the biggest mistakes this generation.

Their quest for advanced architecture has been a high mistake. It resulted in an extremely unreasonable price point for the PS3 as well as overly-complicated architecture.

If the PS3's architecture wasn't so complicated, games like Gran Turismo / inFAMOUS / The Last Guardian, etc. would have came a lot earlier, a game like Uncharted 1 may have had the features that Uncharted 2 had, and the system probably would have snagged a few of the X360's exclusives if developers believed it was worth the trouble of development.

I also think that a few of Sony developers focus on graphics too much. A game like Killzone 2 really should have had splitscreen & co-op but I believe graphics held it back.



Hard one, but i will say Sony. M$ played its card right.
Sony came from the best selling console to a fucking disaster for 3 years that even today still folows them as a financial ghost.



Andrespetmonkey said:
Turkish said:
Sony failed at marketing this gen

Nintendo failed with the motion controls this gen, I dont see myself trying to play a Wii 10 years from now for nostalgia sake, imagine trying to fire up Skyward Sword again and try to learn how to play the Motion+ and setting up the sensor bar

Microsoft failed with the RROD, 55% failure rate is just unacceptable. And the most shocking thing is, MS knew about the RROD before 360 launch but they still released it on the market, for that 1 year headstart.

55? Link?

I remember it being around 30%, which is still really bad, but 55 is just shocking


http://consumerist.com/2009/08/xbox-360-failure-rate-is-542-percent-game-informer-finds.html

 

And that was 2009, I suppose all first gen 360 models to be dead by now.