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Nintendo needs to improve the graphics and art before release?

Yes, ALOT! 88 27.24%
 
Yes, kinda 49 15.17%
 
it's fine as it is 90 27.86%
 
Graphics, who cares? 76 23.53%
 
Sales are what matter, bring NSMB! 20 6.19%
 
Total:323
VicViper on 23 April 2012
darthdevidem01 said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
has anyone seen the game in motion in here!? or in 3D, because if you have not, then what u are discussing in here is all shit

Hilarious the amount of panic/assumptions 4 screens caused!

Who can forget the meltdowns this pictures brought to the gaming world?




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happydolphin on 23 April 2012
Lord Ciansworth said:
You see I think in order to understand Nintendo's direction with this game we have to understand the genesis of the New Super Mario Bros. series.

When it was originally spawned on the DS in 2006 it was the first 2D side-scrolling Mario game since 1992's Super Mario Land 2. It's clear from the game's art direction that Nintendo considered the it to be something of an exercise in nostalgia. The game used simple shapes and colours, much like its NES and SNES predecessors, simply rendered with a decent resolution. The game was a tribute as much as it was a game in its own right. As we now know the game went on to be colossal success, and this is where Nintendo's problem starts.

How can you justify radically changing any game feature in a series whose previous two entries have sold in excess of 25 million units globally? Who would sign off on that? You'd have to be downright crazy. This is the same problem that COD has. The designers look at the game, its style, its content, its gameplay and know that any radical change to these elements risks destroying the delicate balance that constitutes a "hit" in the video game industry.

Nintendo, rightly so from a business perspective, doesn't shake things up too much with their two biggest selling franchises, New Super Mario Bros., and Mario Kart. After all, who would want to be the game designer that messed up one of Nintendo's most bankable streams of income?

Very, very good point.

So, since Nintendo want to keep a hit, but also want to make a good AAA 2D Mario game without being hindered by sales considerations and what makes a game a hit, why don't they do this: release any 2D Mario game in pairs, one for the true gamers, and one for the mainstream, since both are not mutually compatible. If their aim is awesomeness, then that's what they would do. But their aim is sales, so I say "Ciao Nintendo" when it comes to 2D Mario, I'd rather give up than have my tail wagging with no delivery on promise.



darthdevidem01 on 23 April 2012
VicViper said:
darthdevidem01 said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
has anyone seen the game in motion in here!? or in 3D, because if you have not, then what u are discussing in here is all shit

Hilarious the amount of panic/assumptions 4 screens caused!

Who can forget the meltdowns this pictures brought to the gaming world?

tehehe!

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Pavolink on 23 April 2012
VicViper said:

Who can forget the meltdowns this pictures brought to the gaming world?


I wasn't on internet those days, but pretty sure it was the equivalent of todays: "Zelda's dead&kiddy. Nintendo doomed"



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happydolphin on 23 April 2012

^Add to what you're saying, they were doing this in an attempt to make the game more interesting from a presentation perspective, and not the opposite for NSMB2 like Lord Ciansworth so well explained.



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VicViper on 23 April 2012
Pavolink said:
VicViper said:

Who can forget the meltdowns this pictures brought to the gaming world?


I wasn't on internet those days, but pretty sure it was the equivalent of todays: "Zelda's dead&kiddy. Nintendo doomed"

There were some "CD-i Zelda looks better, there I said it" here and there.

Or the classic, "f*** Nintendo, Link is now a Looney Toones!



happydolphin on 23 April 2012

I'll be the first to admit that when WW was teased, I was crying. After the Spaceworld 2000 Zelda demo, I wanted that. But once I actually played WW and saw the graphical beauty of the game with its toon graphics, it is now one of my most beloved games.

I know the same won't happen here, as Lord C explained above, they need to keep it as close to NSMB as possible, and frankly I'd had enough when I bought it for the DS. Great game, wouldn't buy 3 of 'em.

I will buy it second hand however, the mechanics look good. But for presentation, it is lackluster to say the least.



mike_intellivision on 23 April 2012

One thing I think everyone is forgetting.
Most of the time, we are "blowing up" the screen shots so that they are larger than what would be displayed.
I don't know much about the technical side of graphics -- I do know that such action makes them look "bad."

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amp316 on 23 April 2012

Same crap. New game.

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VicViper on 23 April 2012
happydolphin said:
^Add to what you're saying, they were doing this in an attempt to make the game more interesting from a presentation perspective, and not the opposite for NSMB2 like Lord Ciansworth so well explained.


Like I said, this game will have some very nice suprises, the pictures give us some hints already... you're just with your mind set, so it's pretty hard to talk.

I think this is Mario 3 evolved. That's the winning formula, Nintendo found. And btw, all games look the same style as their predecessors. You played Spirit Tracks, go make a thread complaining about it too and how it looks similar to Phanton Hourglass, I say :)