do not forget that they could adopt a different business approach for the next box... something like they do with the 99 bucks kinect bundle with 2 year of live at 15 a month.... is something that could easily be possible especially if they plan to release a beast.... when you see the outrageous price of an up to date smartphone even with a 2 year plan... and then the outrageous price of that said plan..... i'd have no issue paying 400 for the box and 15 a month afterwards if it is a beast of a console.... and anybody with a high end smartphone with 2 year plan or a tablet with 3g plan saying they would not are just being hypocritical dickheads..... (for info i still refuse to date to get a smartphone or a tablet, i do have a tablet PC....you know a real PC in a tablet form factor, and i can do more than most with that dumb phone tablet pc combo and faster than most with a tablet and a smartphone combo)