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With Widows 8 releasing and basically being bundled with every new tablet, laptop and desktop will Windows phone further improve in marketshare?

WP7.5 has already done muc better this year.

A few things will definately happen.

Windows 8 ( which I write this on now ) has a full on App store of wich will without a doubt fling Microsofts appstore well into the lead in term of amount of apps ( Android and IOS/OSX wont compete with how many people will own Windows 8 ) and obviouslly the Metro quality.

This will help WP. The advantages of Metro will be seen via the much improved Windos PC ( WIn 8 is such a great upgrade and change ) and people will begin to understand what Metro allows fom you as a user.

 

I guess we will see.

What do you think?

By the way, Ive nver ad multitasking this impressive. I lov it. So fast, so easy and so intuitive. Windows 8 cant come soon enough.



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Do you work for MS?

To answer your first question, I have to confirm something... I though Windows 8 was meant to be cross platform etc, in other words isn't windows 8 supposed to be a replacement to the Windows Phone OS? If not then I am guessing it is meant to share with WP8, so why would it improve WP7.5s marketshare?

Oh and Windows 8 will not be bundled with every tablet, people will still be using IOS and Android on those.

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Personally I don't see any advantages of moving to windows 8 on a desktop or laptop until I can use it with a touchscreen, and if MetroUI can't be turned off people using a mouse are gonna get pissed off (perhaps it can be turned off, but the last video I saw of it working [before Christmas] the Metro interface was defaulted to every time you go to the 'desktop')
Don't get me wrong, if I had the money I would love to buy one of those all in one touchscreens to act as a desktop, then maybe have a TV I could control with a tablet device in the living room and a smart phone to travel with... and having it all able to connect through Windows 8. 'twould be awesome. But it is going to take some time for Windows 8 to penetrate people's home devices before it will start to influence people's decisions about smart phone OS. You seem to be assuming a few weeks after W8 releases 90% of computer owners will have upgraded. I'm not even sure Windows 7 is beating Windows XP yet in terms of use (though it is probably mostly business computers holding it back, which won't have as much effect on what smart phone OS people choose... but it should still help show how slow the adoption rate is)



Windows 8 may very well gain a huge portion of the PC marketshare very quickly (as you'd expect), but I don't think its appstore will suddenly explode with app's, after a year and a bit I can see Windows 8 app's being of comparable levels to Android and iOS, but I don't think they'll suddenly overtake either in the foreseeable future, Android is having problems with its divided app's being unoptimised for it, and some developers deciding not to release games for Android because its too much trouble to make their app for it when iOS is relatively simpler, I don't see how Windows 8 won't have a similar issue



TWRoO said:

Do you work for MS?

To answer your first question, I have to confirm something... I though Windows 8 was meant to be cross platform etc, in other words isn't windows 8 supposed to be a replacement to the Windows Phone OS? If not then I am guessing it is meant to share with WP8, so why would it improve WP7.5s marketshare?

Oh and Windows 8 will not be bundled with every tablet, people will still be using IOS and Android on those.

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Personally I don't see any advantages of moving to windows 8 on a desktop or laptop until I can use it with a touchscreen, and if MetroUI can't be turned off people using a mouse are gonna get pissed off (perhaps it can be turned off, but the last video I saw of it working [before Christmas] the Metro interface was defaulted to every time you go to the 'desktop')
Don't get me wrong, if I had the money I would love to buy one of those all in one touchscreens to act as a desktop, then maybe have a TV I could control with a tablet device in the living room and a smart phone to travel with... and having it all able to connect through Windows 8. 'twould be awesome. But it is going to take some time for Windows 8 to penetrate people's home devices before it will start to influence people's decisions about smart phone OS. You seem to be assuming a few weeks after W8 releases 90% of computer owners will have upgraded. I'm not even sure Windows 7 is beating Windows XP yet in terms of use (though it is probably mostly business computers holding it back, which won't have as much effect on what smart phone OS people choose... but it should still help show how slow the adoption rate is)


Tis cool bro.

 

Windows 7.5 is just like Windows 8  PC. I have both so, I know. Yes WP8 is coming but not this year. Only Win 8  is coming this year.

Ipad is made by apple, so Tablets arent really afectin them.

Anroid however, I think are in trouble. This is Windows. And Androi tablets as they are now are in alot of trouble ainst what I'm running on my laptop as we speak. SAmsung, Acer etc will coose Windows 8 over Android. Thisisnt like Windows Mobile or a seprate windows touch. windows 8 is windows 8.

Also with a mouse metro is easy as pie. The scroll on the mouse is used nicely to scroll along the UI. And snap maultitasking is also esy wth mouse.Yes touch is te ultimate but mouse and keyboard is by far still amazingly easy and intuitive.

I can run like 10 programs with not a single load on Windows 8 while running a HD video in the background. On a 2.4ghz dual core pentium 4gb ram laptop. On the same laptop Win 7 cold manage about 6 programs but with loading and a SD video. But switching between the programs was not fluid nor loadless on Win7.

Also Win 8 provides me with easy snap together apps. Right now I write this coment with side by side snapped in People app. A notification cam through that someone wanted to Video chat like 20 secs ago. Instantly snapped in the app for that by simply clicking the notification that came up. And all the while keeping this IE10 open ad visible side by side.

The ability of Win 8 is unmatched for what can be achieved. specialy where multitasking and cross program intergration is concerned.



You can't expect Windows Phone 8 alone to improve Microsofts marketshare in the mobile OS. The OS is not their major problem as its a very solid OS for your average smartphone consumer these days.

They have to improve the following things:

1. App store - get more of the popular apps and get them faster, not 3 months after they hit iphone/android. Also they have to allow in app purchases, which they currently don't.

2. OEM relationships - They have to allow OEMs to have input when it comes to customizing their features in to the OS while not allowing for fragmentation. Microsoft has to support these phones with updates and they can't allow OEMs to go crazy with customization but still allow them to "differentiate" themselves. This is a very challenging task...

3. Carrier relationships - They have to convince carreirs to invest in WP platform by offering choice. AT&T aside, other carriers in North America don't have many compelling Windows Phone devices.

4. Target the business market - Don't worry about iOS and Android for now, but go and kill blackberry first.Their email client and keyboard on Windows Phone is better than any other mobile platform.



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disolitude said:
You can't expect Windows Phone 8 alone to improve Microsofts marketshare in the mobile OS. The OS is not their major problem as its a very solid OS for your average smartphone consumer these days.

They have to improve the following things:

1. App store - get more of the popular apps and get them faster, not 3 months after they hit iphone/android. Also they have to allow in app purchases, which they currently don't.

2. OEM relationships - They have to allow OEMs to have input when it comes to customizing their features in to the OS while not allowing for fragmentation. Microsoft has to support these phones with updates and they can't allow OEMs to go crazy with customization but still allow them to "differentiate" themselves. This is a very challenging task...

3. Carrier relationships - They have to convince carreirs to invest in WP platform by offering choice. AT&T aside, other carriers in North America don't have many compelling Windows Phone devices.

4. Target the business market - Don't worry about iOS and Android for now, but go and kill blackberry first.Their email client and keyboard on Windows Phone is better than any other mobile platform.



Im referring to PC windows 8.

 



TeddostheFireKing said:
Windows 8 may very well gain a huge portion of the PC marketshare very quickly (as you'd expect), but I don't think its appstore will suddenly explode with app's, after a year and a bit I can see Windows 8 app's being of comparable levels to Android and iOS, but I don't think they'll suddenly overtake either in the foreseeable future, Android is having problems with its divided app's being unoptimised for it, and some developers deciding not to release games for Android because its too much trouble to make their app for it when iOS is relatively simpler, I don't see how Windows 8 won't have a similar issue


The x86 side of Windows 8 really has nothing to worry about as they already have all  the apps in the world. Microsoft has said that they will allow x86 aps to be listed in the app store hence there will be 100,000s of apps for Windows 8 available in there very fast. And for people that were born before 2007, they can still go ahead and install programs the old fashioned way...by downloading them and isntalling them manually.

For Windows 8 on ARM, microsoft has to figure something out. Now that its clear that ARM wont have backwards compatibility with x86 they have to convince devs to make ARM based apps and fast.

I can see them merging Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 on ARM completely. Make it the exact same platform...This would give them a boost of 100,000 apps expected to be available on Windows Phone by the time Windows 8 launches and would encourage development for Windows Phone and Windows 8 on ARM at the same time.



Nokia and AT&T will boost Windows Phone sales, starting this week. I've talked with the AT&T stores in my area and they are all about Windows Phone. Almost all of the workers have a Lumia 900 and have been praising the phone to friends, family and customers. They have made it a Hero device and will be pushing it hard. I think they get commission off of each one they sell.

Once people see Windows 8 and see how much it resembles Windows Phone, it should draw interest.

Let's hope Windows phone 8 has all the features of Windows Mobile, then it would give Android a run for it's money. They need to step further away from the iPhone style closed ecosystem. People want access to their files and be able to do what they want with them on their phones. So less app launcher crap and more OS.







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selnor said:
 



Im referring to PC windows 8.

 

You are saying-asking if windows 8 on desktop will improve Windows Phone marketshare. And I am asnwering, no it wont if that is the only change they make to Windows phone, and have suggested other things they need to do to fix WP lack of marketshare.

With that said I am getting Lumia 900 on Tuesday.



disolitude said:
selnor said:
 



Im referring to PC windows 8.

 

You are saying-asking if windows 8 on desktop will improve Windows Phone marketshare. And I am asnwering, no it wont if that is the only change they make to Windows phone, and have suggested other things they need to do to fix WP lack of marketshare.

With that said I am getting Lumia 900 on Tuesday.

Damn you.  want  that phone.

Isnt that 12mp camera?

Very jealous.
 :)