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TWRoO on 07 April 2012
pbroy said:
TWRoO said:

Why what's that like? if it's a multi-touch surface then normal touchpads won't be able to replicate it, and if he means gestures (kind of like Opera browser mouse gestures) then you would need to either hold a button to perform them, which kinda defeats the point when you can just press page up and down and use tab and arrows to navigate... or they would have to be much more specific gestures than swiping left and right otherwise they would not be distinguishable from normal mouse use.


http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/features.html#trackpad

My laptop with Windows 7 already does the pinch to zoom and rotate gestures with the touchpad. What I was wondering is if it would flip to different apps by swiping from left to right on the touchpad from the left edge of the pad towards the right and then you can pinch to zoom the apps. Touchpad will still have the cursor for the mouse, but when you have 2 fingers it would turn to gestures. All normal mouse functions will remain in the center square. From what I have read there will be an outer rim of pixels on touchscreens that will be reserverd for menu pulls. Simulating this on a touchpad wouldn't be any different. It might interfere with the scroll left and right functions of the touchpad, but that can be disabled through software. It's already redundant since you can scroll on Windows 7 by swiping two fingers up/down  and left/right.

Then your laptop has a multitouch pad... mine doesn't do any of that, it won't recognise more than 1 pressure point and as such doesn't know the difference between one and two fingers. The outer rim thing could work I guess, but if it's anything like the extra features Dell put in such as zoom and circular scrolling they are not very reliable (which is why i disabled them all)



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disolitude on 07 April 2012
TheSwordUser said:
disolitude said:
 

Microsoft (Bill Gates) didn't steal anything from Apple. Both stole the desktop GUI and mouse ideas from Xerox. You can argue that over time, Bill Gates stole things from Unix, but apple? Not really.

I ran in to a few opinions similar to yours which is fair. You don;t like metro and that's fine... However I find it somewhat puzzling that you are giving microsoft crap for trying something new in the same statement while accusing them of stealing ideas from other companies and not being original.


Huh, I didn't know about that Xerox thing. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

Well, I'm not trying to shit on MS for being innovative, I mean, windows phone is fine and all, but I don't like the idea of throwing Metro at my face on a desktop computer. That's just plain mean to say at least. Metro for desktops just doesn't make much sense in my eyes.  At least not yet, who knows, maybe in coming years they will apply some fixes here and there and it will be alright. For now, I'll just stick with good old desktop interface. However, I imagine them inventing something else for big, non-touchscreen displays eventually.

I've used Win 8 Consumer and developer edition on a desktop, laptop(with touch screen), Macbook Air and Acer W500 tablet. On a tablet there really is no comparison. Win 8 is much better than Win 7. But I do agree, on the desktop its worse. So I agree with you, I don't see myself installing it on my desktop in the near future.

I do think that the best use of Windows 8 is going to be on a device that combines touch screen and physical keyboard.  Mix of physical keyboard, touch screen and metro interface on a light ultrabook-like device is what x86 Windows 8 is going to be all about. Even without touch screen I would probably prefer Windows 8 on my laptop over Windows 7 due to the fact its much better in sleep/wake up/boot time department and is more efficient in terms of battery.

So as far as I see it -

Win 8 on a tablet - win

Win 8 on a laptop - semi-win

Win 8 on a hybrid device - mega-win

Win 8 on a desktop - fail

3 out of 4 ain't bad. :)

My dream portable computing device right now would be a slim ultrabook (3lbs or less), 11-13 inch touch screen with Wacom digitizer (1600x900 res or higher), i5 Intel cpu, dedicated 600 series GPU by Nvidia, Windows 8 OS and 6 hour battery life of solid usage. The new Ipad has nothing on such a device in my books.

So if Asus, Lenovo, HP, Dell...whoever are reading this...I will give you 2000 dollars for such a device. Just come and take my money :)



dallas on 08 April 2012

You people think that a simple change in strategy will fix everything for windows phone, when the strategy has a lot of risk to it. MS risks somewhat alienating the pc market by merging the OS with the tablet OS, and by trying to serve two markets at once, creating a substandard product. I realize that msft needs to do something to end the marketshare slide for mobile devices, but it has an uphill battle no matter what.