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Do you agree with EA on this?

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No 30 26.79%
 
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Scoobes on 05 April 2012
Sal.Paradise said:
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Hahaaaa.

The EA damage control is hilarious. We're supposed to think they're paragons of ethical practice because they've published a game with same-sex relationships?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LGBT_characters_in_video_games

I'm not even going to bother copy pasting, it would fill up the whole page and then some.

Those companies didn't get thousands of letters from homophobic nut-cases.

EA aren't paragons of ethical practice (there not even prentending to be really). They're just standing up for their developers creation and something that shouldn't even be an issue.

Got a source to go along with that, buddy? 

Funny thing is, Bioware under EA have already released games with homosexual and lesbian relationships, straange how their heroic defense against tyrannical homophobes and fundamentalists only pops up after a rash of bad press and criticism.

Did you read the original post?

The lack of information out there concerning the issue is quite telling. Very few games are quite so obvious about homosexuality too.

And this hasn't only just cropped out recently. This has been an on-going issue with Bioware games for a little while.

Uhuh, I did.

The Gay romance scenes are just like the ones in Dragon Age II. Topless men, bed talk, cuddling, kissing etc etc. 

And even in the original Dragon Age: "the player may choose a male or female character from the start of the game. The main character has an opportunity to have sexual encounters with one party member of the same sex. There are also opportunities to have sexual encounters with NPCs of the same gender throughout the game and notably within the first 30 minutes of game play."

Fable, 2001 (and all other Fables): allows the player character to flirt, marry, and/or have sex with NPC townspeople of the same sex. (In one quest) one option is to dress as a woman and have sex with the (male) owner when he's drunk.

Rockstar's game where you can play a schoolboy kissing other schoolboys:  Bully (Canis Canem Edit in Europe) features optional homosexual content. The game's central character Jimmy Hopkins can kiss various characters, male and female, in order to regain health.

These are all big name games from big name companies, including Bioware themselves. This is so obviously a PR move it's not even funny. 

I never said it wasn't a PR move, but it doesn't make the stance they take any less admirable. The issues Bioware have had with homophobic people complaining about optional gay content is ridiculous.

The other point is that Bioware/EA are actually putting in gay content due to player requests. This is something that didn't really happen before and plays into the bigger political game in the US.

Also, I don't know of any company that had this campaign waged against them to the same degree:

http://floridafamily.org/full_article.php?article_no=140




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Kangi on 05 April 2012

I don't like EA, and this does smell of PR and whatnot. However, that is not the basis for disagreeing with their stance here. It's a good thing that they've been doing this; you should be able to recognize that even if you despise them.



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Sal.Paradise on 05 April 2012
Scoobes said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Scoobes said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Scoobes said:
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Uhuh, I did.

The Gay romance scenes are just like the ones in Dragon Age II. Topless men, bed talk, cuddling, kissing etc etc. 

And even in the original Dragon Age: "the player may choose a male or female character from the start of the game. The main character has an opportunity to have sexual encounters with one party member of the same sex. There are also opportunities to have sexual encounters with NPCs of the same gender throughout the game and notably within the first 30 minutes of game play."

Fable, 2001 (and all other Fables): allows the player character to flirt, marry, and/or have sex with NPC townspeople of the same sex. (In one quest) one option is to dress as a woman and have sex with the (male) owner when he's drunk.

Rockstar's game where you can play a schoolboy kissing other schoolboys:  Bully (Canis Canem Edit in Europe) features optional homosexual content. The game's central character Jimmy Hopkins can kiss various characters, male and female, in order to regain health.

These are all big name games from big name companies, including Bioware themselves. This is so obviously a PR move it's not even funny. 

I never said it wasn't a PR move, but it doesn't make the stance they take any less admirable. The issues Bioware have had with homophobic people complaining about optional gay content is ridiculous.

The other point is that Bioware/EA are actually putting in gay content due to player requests. This is something that didn't really happen before and plays into the bigger political game in the US.

Actually, I do see it as 'less admirable', as one commentator put it:  I just don’t get it. This could hardly be a more obvious attempt on EA’s part to selfishly leverage a valid issue to garner sympathy. Damn. I hate it when corporations pull this kind of crap. Makes it so difficult to support and encourage progress on the diversity front without tacitly encouraging EA to keep using it like a shield.

It is a valid cause, and I'm glad it is being pushed forward in video games (although I would hardly call the 'romances' in the ME series a quality depiction of adult relationships, gay or otherwise) but I am not happy with a company using it for selfish purposes. 



TwistedComplex on 05 April 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

I don't know about you guys, but I think 32% choosing "No" in the poll is a disgustingly high number.


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Areym on 05 April 2012

The game is rated T for a fucking reason. The game isn't meant for children. It's for teens and up. for fuck's sake. SO many stupid idiots. At the age of 10, kids already know what gay means, so what's the big fucking deal?



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UnknownFact on 05 April 2012
TwistedComplex said:
Is there a "Don't give a fuck" option?

Also, I'm tired of EA and Bioware falling back on their gay relationship stance as if that absolves them of all the bullshit they do.




SxyxS on 05 April 2012

EA is only trying to take attention away from the "Golden Poo Award"-and most won"t realize this.

Do you really think a company that is treating the own workers like sh!t and destroying thousands of jobs gives a sh!t about gay people-never ever.
But Hipocrisy is part of this game and now they act as victims and philantrophs.

Nice try EA-what"s the next PR Spindoctor-trick to make people forget the Poo Award.
I hope those bastards will get receive the poo award the next year for this false flag.



Stefl1504 on 05 April 2012

Oooh humans, how I love you all... so narrowminded :D



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TwistedComplex on 05 April 2012

http://thevoicereviews.blogspot.com/2012/04/scapegoating-ea-and-homosexuals.html



IIIIITHE1IIIII on 06 April 2012


I guess I need to ask this again: Why do people keep pulling the children argument into this? (That includes some of the letters.) It's not like people freak out when children see straight intercourse in games that are supposed to be mature, so why is this so important? Do people fear that their kids will go gay in the future as a result? GET REAL! And even if they were becoming gay as a result (for some weird-ass reason), what's the fucking problem about that?

And then there's the "EA has done shit before, so this is obviously an attempt to redeem some of that"-argument. That is just beyond ridiculous. Fact is EA was attacked by some "concerned" parents and homophobes among others, so they obviously had to defend their decision of allowing same-sex relationships.

EA deserve praise for this stance.