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maverick40 said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Sony should get original exclusives instead of games FROM the ps3.


Gravity rush, escape plan and unit 13 says hi.


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Hang on - an accurate analyst report released on 1st April... is this some form of irony?

Anyway I'd agree with pretty much all of that. Sony seem to have a great handle on the tech element and have produced a fantastic little device - but I've never been convinced they understand who its for specifically and what they will want to do with it nor how best to market it.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Even though this was supposed to be an April Fool's joke, this 'analyst' makes some good points. Sony needs some games which are big and unique to make the system a success. I don't believe smartphones are going to kill dedicated handhelds but they will cause some drastic changes: Sony can no longer use multimedia functionality as a compelling selling point for the Vita. Smart Phones already handle that in a superior way. The Vita needs some big games made FOR the Vita. They are experimenting with portable games like Gravity Rush but none of them have quite reached big success.



This April Fools joke was so well done that I can't help but comment on some of the finer points. Kudos to a well crafted piece.

The "Analyst" makes a good point about Sony's popular IPs, they are best played at home. That being said, PSP had some great RPGs that helped move systems in Japan. I think that has to be Sony's strategy moving forward to gain some traction on the Home Islands. Obviously, they won't be producing any of these themselves, but the time is nigh to start cutting checks to the various RPG houses to start making some games. I could see Disgaea doing well on this thing, it would be a fun experience with such a big screen.

I don't see the Vita dying, but a price cut is inevitable at this point. Unless SUPER DRAQON QUEST vs. FFVII!!!!!OMGCUMINPANTS!!!!!! is released, I just don't see this system miraculously jump starting sales in Japan or the Western Hemisphere. It has fared better in Europe, so maybe that is the territory where the most attention is to be given.

All together, this was a VERY WELL DONE April fools joke. I saw the star and wanted to know why it was there so I saw the 'fictive analysis firm early', even so I found myself seriously agreeing and disagreeing with a joke article all the way through. Well done.



RolStoppable said:
pezus said:
RolStoppable said:

A comparison between Super Mario 3D Land and New Super Mario Bros. Wii (which you actually mean based on the context of later posts) wouldn't be exactly the same, because one game is a 3D platformer and the other one a 2D platformer. Historically the latter sells about twice as many units as the former on average, so significantly better legs would be a given for a 2D game if it released close to a 3D game (like how NSMBW walked all over Super Mario Galaxy 2).

But anyway, currently SM3DL sells more copies than NSMBW each and every week which is the reverse situation of Golden Abyss vs. Drake's Deception, so similar points cannot be made.

Except NSMBWii is old and UC3 just came out a few months ago. 

I know that. When I said "anyway", I meant regardless of all differences and flaws between the two comparisons, SM3DL vs. NSMBW shows the opposite of GA vs. DD, so even by ignoring all these flaws, similar points like Chark suggested could not be made for both cases.


Let's not forget their are 10x as many 3DS's out there right now...could be a factor, but what do I know.



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zero129 said:
binary solo said:
Vindicated!! "but also because it [3DS] offers stronger IPs." and "Monster Hunter seems to be tied to the Nintendo 3DS at the moment, so Sony's next best bets..."

Totally align with my analysis of where...

HANG ON A MINUTE!!!!

There's no way a real analyst ever looks at anything other than USA performance. For them USA = the world. So an analyst who talks about Monster Hunter isn't a professional analyst... probably not even a real analysts. More like some sort of astute gaming fan who likes to rub Sony's nose in it at every opportunity.

Oh no, I've been Rol'd again.

Except the only thing is pretty much everything Rol said is true, and imo he would make a better analyst then the ones that get payed for this type of stuff.

The fastest way to lose credibility is to try to rub someone's nose in falsehoods. The only credible thing to rub someone's nose in is unpleasant fact. Hence nose rubbing motive can be entirely consistent with credible and accurate analysis.



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Chark said:
RolStoppable said:
pezus said:
RolStoppable said:

A comparison between Super Mario 3D Land and New Super Mario Bros. Wii (which you actually mean based on the context of later posts) wouldn't be exactly the same, because one game is a 3D platformer and the other one a 2D platformer. Historically the latter sells about twice as many units as the former on average, so significantly better legs would be a given for a 2D game if it released close to a 3D game (like how NSMBW walked all over Super Mario Galaxy 2).

But anyway, currently SM3DL sells more copies than NSMBW each and every week which is the reverse situation of Golden Abyss vs. Drake's Deception, so similar points cannot be made.

Except NSMBWii is old and UC3 just came out a few months ago. 

I know that. When I said "anyway", I meant regardless of all differences and flaws between the two comparisons, SM3DL vs. NSMBW shows the opposite of GA vs. DD, so even by ignoring all these flaws, similar points like Chark suggested could not be made for both cases.

Let's not forget their are 10x as many 3DS's out there right now...could be a factor, but what do I know.

You can't compare SMB3DL with U:GA. That's completely unfair.

SMB3DL had no competition at all and U:GA is released alongside with some other great games.



this analyst is right, whoever he is



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

dark_gh0st_b0y said:
this analyst is right, whoever he is


Definitely not patcher. 



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RolStoppable said:
Chark said:
RolStoppable said:

I know that. When I said "anyway", I meant regardless of all differences and flaws between the two comparisons, SM3DL vs. NSMBW shows the opposite of GA vs. DD, so even by ignoring all these flaws, similar points like Chark suggested could not be made for both cases.

Let's not forget their are 10x as many 3DS's out there right now...could be a factor, but what do I know.

I guess that is meant in a sarcastic manner, but it's out of place. You were the one who called for a SM3DL vs. NSMBW comparison to draw an analogy to a GA vs. DD comparison, but I can tell you that it is flawed on several levels and any attempts to offset these differences will lead to other inconsistencies. It just doesn't work.

But I can tell you for sure that there aren't 10x as many 3DSes as Wiis out there. What you are thinking of must be a SM3DL vs. GA comparison, but for what reason is anybody's guess, because nobody has brought that up yet.


I think all this talk is just hinting towards the obsurdity of your original comparison of GA vs. DD. In fact you assume people are buying a PS3 to get DD, would like to know how you figure out that's a substantial percentage of its sales. I'd say plenty of those sales are from current PS3 owners. Even if so you can't outrule GA as a system seller by comparing it to its better established counterpart. GA did sell systems, 28% of Vita owners bought the game. Vita launched 1.1 million consoles, not bad at all. GA still has the best legs on the Vita and already sold 480k as a launch title. You can't honestly expect a game that requires a $320 base cost of entry to outsell its celebrated $60 older brother when there is 37x as many consoles already out there.

When a game launches and is considered a "system seller" it doesn't sell millions of systems, it sells thousands, the millions the game sells is to current console owners. Rol, you're falling apart here.



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