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Lostplanet22 said:
Kasz216 said:
Seems excessive... especially since if you jailed all the racists in relation to football there would be well... a LOT.

Wasn't there a french politician a while back who was complaining because most of the french team was black?

Doesn't sound that offensive depends what kind of word he used in french for 'black'..

Curious what this guy said though and i guess they made an example of him and that is something I can't disagree with.  

To be fair I think it happened back in 2007 now that I think about it.  There was a whole big story about when Obama was elected just how shockingly racist a lot of the coverage and commentary was and in general a primer about how a lot of europeon comments on race even by leaders would shock americans.

Pretty sure this was the incident.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/175696

 

In the US people get the hell beat out of them for using terms that are sometimes racist in a non-racist way.



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Rath said:
Zlejedi said:
Don't you guys know ? The only people you can freely insult are heterosexual caucasian catholics.


I thought it was White Anglo-Saxon Protestants (WASPs) that we could insult?

Man, I'd better go apologise to some protestants...


It just Christians in general



OT: Political correctness on its finest. I feel truly sorry for UK



It is just me or news of England usually consist of people with disturbing medical conditions, female teachers jailed for getting laid with students and someone going into jail or escaping it due to some stupid interpretation of the law?



 

 

 

 

 

Scoobes said:
Sounds fair to me, the guy was an idiot. He got jailed for "inciting racial hatred" and considerring he made the comments in the most public forum you possibly can, the punishment fits imo. If someone stood in the middle of the street and shouted the comments he made, they most definately would be jailed. Just because it's Twitter/online does not excuse idiocy.


How does one go about inciting 'hate' exactly?

His twitter friends deleted/blocked/reprimanded him for what he said. So he actually dis-incited racial hatred by any quantifiable measure.

Hate laws have to be the most stupid legislation ever created. The amusing part is that the 'West' thinks it's morally superior for having them.

They actually incite more hatred for the people who are given special treatment before the law.



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Pyro as Bill said:
Scoobes said:
Sounds fair to me, the guy was an idiot. He got jailed for "inciting racial hatred" and considerring he made the comments in the most public forum you possibly can, the punishment fits imo. If someone stood in the middle of the street and shouted the comments he made, they most definately would be jailed. Just because it's Twitter/online does not excuse idiocy.


How does one go about inciting 'hate' exactly?

His twitter friends deleted/blocked/reprimanded him for what he said. So he actually dis-incited racial hatred by any quantifiable measure.

Hate laws have to be the most stupid legislation ever created. The amusing part is that the 'West' thinks it's morally superior for having them.

They actually incite more hatred for the people who are given special treatment before the law.

I really don't care what the crime he goes down for is called. He behaved like a twat, he should get punished for it. 2 months is nothing anyway. I believe he's a student, it just means no Summer holiday.



Kasz216 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Kasz216 said:
Seems excessive... especially since if you jailed all the racists in relation to football there would be well... a LOT.

Wasn't there a french politician a while back who was complaining because most of the french team was black?

Doesn't sound that offensive depends what kind of word he used in french for 'black'..

Curious what this guy said though and i guess they made an example of him and that is something I can't disagree with.  

To be fair I think it happened back in 2007 now that I think about it.  There was a whole big story about when Obama was elected just how shockingly racist a lot of the coverage and commentary was and in general a primer about how a lot of europeon comments on race even by leaders would shock americans.

Pretty sure this was the incident.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/175696

 

In the US people get the hell beat out of them for using terms that are sometimes racist in a non-racist way.


you should specify countries. there are so many different cultures/laws and whatever in europe...

just because some of european countries have the same currency and we have the eu doesn't mean a swede or sweden is like italy or an italian (as example)

it's like i would say "damn canada or mexico" because of george bush.



crissindahouse said:
Kasz216 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Kasz216 said:
Seems excessive... especially since if you jailed all the racists in relation to football there would be well... a LOT.

Wasn't there a french politician a while back who was complaining because most of the french team was black?

Doesn't sound that offensive depends what kind of word he used in french for 'black'..

Curious what this guy said though and i guess they made an example of him and that is something I can't disagree with.  

To be fair I think it happened back in 2007 now that I think about it.  There was a whole big story about when Obama was elected just how shockingly racist a lot of the coverage and commentary was and in general a primer about how a lot of europeon comments on race even by leaders would shock americans.

Pretty sure this was the incident.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/175696

 

In the US people get the hell beat out of them for using terms that are sometimes racist in a non-racist way.


you should specify countries. there are so many different cultures/laws and whatever in europe...

just because some of european countries have the same currency and we have the eu doesn't mean a swede or sweden is like italy or an italian (as example)

it's like i would say "damn canada or mexico" because of george bush.

If we were talking about sexism sure.  Racism, though the US still has a ways to go itself, i'd put it up against any country in europe as far as recent history goes.



Kasz216 said:
crissindahouse said:
Kasz216 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Kasz216 said:
Seems excessive... especially since if you jailed all the racists in relation to football there would be well... a LOT.

Wasn't there a french politician a while back who was complaining because most of the french team was black?

Doesn't sound that offensive depends what kind of word he used in french for 'black'..

Curious what this guy said though and i guess they made an example of him and that is something I can't disagree with.  

To be fair I think it happened back in 2007 now that I think about it.  There was a whole big story about when Obama was elected just how shockingly racist a lot of the coverage and commentary was and in general a primer about how a lot of europeon comments on race even by leaders would shock americans.

Pretty sure this was the incident.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/175696

 

In the US people get the hell beat out of them for using terms that are sometimes racist in a non-racist way.


you should specify countries. there are so many different cultures/laws and whatever in europe...

just because some of european countries have the same currency and we have the eu doesn't mean a swede or sweden is like italy or an italian (as example)

it's like i would say "damn canada or mexico" because of george bush.

If we were talking about sexism sure.  Racism, though the US still has a ways to go itself, i'd put it up against any country in europe as far as recent history goes

ok let's talk about racism in luxembourg, what are your experiences there?

to think racism in usa isn't as bad as in other countries has to be a joke...i'm not saying it's worse there but i won't believe it's better there.

and for example in germany almost everyone was for obama. he was the most beloved presidential canditate of the usa here in germany i can think about. if you would have asked germans who they hope to win in usa almost everyone would have said "obama"

so as example i believe here in germany racism isn't worse than in usa. no clue how you can think it is. i believe for example it's still damn hard for black in some parts of usa. i don't believe you don't have some parts in usa were a lot of racists live. because of the slump, most who lost their job as example in detroit were black people. they were the first who had to go.

and i don't have to fear to get shot when i try to come over the border here, ask some mexican families what they say about this. it's clearly the message "people we don't want here have maybe to die trying to come to usa illegally".

and i never saw so many police videos were you can see policeman punching and kicking some black guys just because they are black. damn they are policeman!

we have some idiots here like every country has and since we don't just have "republicans or democrats" we surely have this stupid npd here but if you wouldn't only have the two-party-system and would have a political system like other countries have with a bigger diversity you would have a party like the npd as well.

and talking about sexism, there i would think usa isn't as bad as some other countries for example in europe but this is as well really different from country to country.



crissindahouse said:
Kasz216 said:
crissindahouse said:
Kasz216 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Kasz216 said:
Seems excessive... especially since if you jailed all the racists in relation to football there would be well... a LOT.

Wasn't there a french politician a while back who was complaining because most of the french team was black?

Doesn't sound that offensive depends what kind of word he used in french for 'black'..

Curious what this guy said though and i guess they made an example of him and that is something I can't disagree with.  

To be fair I think it happened back in 2007 now that I think about it.  There was a whole big story about when Obama was elected just how shockingly racist a lot of the coverage and commentary was and in general a primer about how a lot of europeon comments on race even by leaders would shock americans.

Pretty sure this was the incident.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/175696

 

In the US people get the hell beat out of them for using terms that are sometimes racist in a non-racist way.


you should specify countries. there are so many different cultures/laws and whatever in europe...

just because some of european countries have the same currency and we have the eu doesn't mean a swede or sweden is like italy or an italian (as example)

it's like i would say "damn canada or mexico" because of george bush.

If we were talking about sexism sure.  Racism, though the US still has a ways to go itself, i'd put it up against any country in europe as far as recent history goes

ok let's talk about racism in luxembourg, what are your experiences there?

to think racism in usa isn't as bad as in other countries has to be a joke...i'm not saying it's worse there but i won't believe it's better there.

and for example in germany almost everyone was for obama. he was the most beloved presidential canditate of the usa here in germany i can think about. if you would have asked germans who they hope to win in usa almost everyone would have said "obama"

so as example i believe here in germany racism isn't worse than in usa. no clue how you can think it is. i believe for example it's still damn hard for black in some parts of usa. i don't believe you don't have some parts in usa were a lot of racists live. because of the slump, most who lost their job as example in detroit were black people. they were the first who had to go.

and i don't have to fear to get shot when i try to come over the border here, ask some mexican families what they say about this. it's clearly the message "people we don't want here have maybe to die trying to come to usa illegally".

and i never saw so many police videos were you can see policeman punching and kicking some black guys just because they are black. damn they are policeman!

we have some idiots here like every country has and since we don't just have "republicans or democrats" we surely have this stupid npd here but if you wouldn't only have the two-party-system and would have a political system like other countries have with a bigger diversity you would have a party like the npd as well.

and talking about sexism, there i would think usa isn't as bad as some other countries for example in europe but this is as well really different from country to country.

I agree the US is only better in regards to sexism to SOME europeon countries.  Like say, France.  Hence why I don't say the same thing.

As for racism... you here this stuff about America, cause we make a big deal about it and draw attention to it because we see it as a problem... and bring up any case that may be about racism, even if it might  not be.  Like the Trayvon Martin case.  A lot of the time we practically invent stories about racism because of vigiliance.  For example American Football Player Tim Tebow, who was white, was examined if the fact that he was white, led to more chances then a black quaterback would of gotten. (When in reality, it was because he is considered by a lot the greatest college football player ever and because the dude is ridiculiously humanitarian.)  We examine the hell out of everything in regards to race in an attempt to improve.


As for Germany, well starting with Obama, Germany was the country with the blackface campaign poster of Obama.  The country that had "Obama Chicken Fingers" and who had a Zoo that named a monkey after Obama.  That the guy before him was such a dick that Germans preferred a black man to someone running as a legacy candidate isn't exactly a surprise even if you take all Germans as racists. 

Outside which... compare government representation of minorities in Germany compaired to the US.

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/routledg/gp/2007/00000016/00000004/art00003

 

Americans do have a problem with ILLEGAL immigration, however you'd be hard pressed to find any large support for deporting legal immigrants like say...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3969418,00.html

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/10/19/peter-goodspeed-germanys-new-extremism-seeks-fuhrer/

"A new poll conducted by the Friedrich Ebert Foundation for Political Education, a foundation with close ties to the German Social Democratic party, has found that one in 10 Germans wants "a new Fuehrer to lead the country with an iron fist", and that every third German thinks all foreign immigrants should be expelled from Germany if unemployment becomes a problem. The poll consisted of 2,500 people of different ages. The results were announced on Wednesday.

 Some 25% of all respondents expressed racist opinions, and 15.9% said they somewhat understood why a Fuehrer needed to be appointed; 58% of the participants claimed that Germany needed to curb the traditional Muslim lifestyle. As for anti-Semitism, 17.2% of the survey's participants supported the statement that "Jews have too much influence in the world today"."

 

Germany isn't even one of the countires where it's a particularly hard to debate like some other countries where you in general tend to have more "smoothing based" racism that is under the surface due to there almost being no minorities in the country at all.

 

Such gaps will only grow as well, when you consider just how far the US has come despite being behind on the Civil Rights front, accomplishing more in less time.