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Porcupine_I on 20 March 2012
Kasz216 said:
kowenicki said:
PARANOID!!!

remind me... how many bomb attacks has the US sustained in the last 40 years?

and how many of those were from children on a holiday flight to florida?

that is ridiculous.


It's not paranoid so much as not bothering children on a holiday flight to florida would be seen as racism and stereotyping in the selection process.


Outside which it's not like a terrorist wouldn't use children as a decoy or weapon either.  Look at Palestine for example where there have been child suicide bombers, or "freedom fighters" in africa.

Or for that matter... the numerous babies they have been used for smuggling before.

http://www.hispanicallyspeakingnews.com/notitas-de-noticias/details/spain-busts-gang-that-hid-drugs-in-babies-diapers/12080/

Kinda shows how America centric this site is though...

get a thread on this.  So far as I can tell... no thread about the shooting at a French school.

it's Galaki, he has been out for the TSA for a while now



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Galaki on 20 March 2012
Porcupine_I said:

it's Galaki, he has been out for the TSA for a while now

Nah. I am totally okay with letting strangers touching my children.



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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 20 March 2012

It's routines, after all. You never know how terrorists plan to hijack their next plane!


Sadly, integrity has to be sacrificed to maintain safety. There's no other way.


Silver-Tiger on 20 March 2012
NintendoPie said:
That's ridiculous. TSA are a bunch of idiots. I know that they're told to do these things, but really? A kid, a kid. I'll repeat it one more time a FREAKING KID!


 

This is one of these diliemma situations with safety over freedom. More monitoring and controlling means more safety, but obviously you have less freedom. On the other hand, if they discontinue the TSA controls, the risks of an accident or even another attack are getting higher again.



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homer on 20 March 2012

Why is everyone upset? Where I come from, people pay people to do what the TSA does for free!



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sperrico87 on 20 March 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

It's routines, after all. You never know how terrorists plan to hijack their next plane!


Sadly, integrity has to be sacrificed to maintain safety. There's no other way.


If this is true, then the terrorists have already won, and we might as well pack it in. Game over.

Their whole purpose for 9/11 was to scare people into voting for authoriatarians and turning America into a police state, destroying us from the inside.  They have us right where they want us, mired in the Middle East with no purpose, and they have us right where they want us here, destroying ourselves within our own borders from the inside out.



 

sperrico87 on 20 March 2012
NintendoPie said:
Rath said:
The question isn't whether the child is a terrorist but whether he's being used by the parents as a convenient way to get explosives on a plane (ie. it's actually to check if the parents are terrorists). If America wants to have as high a level of security as they seem to then they can't make exceptions.

They could have at least put him into the Rape-O-Scan. This molestation is unexceptable!


I would argue that it is wholly unacceptable for a government to poke, prod, manhandle, or touch people at the airport, treating everyone like a suspected terrorist.  Our system of law says "innocent until proven guilty", not "guilty until proven innocent".  If we allow this kind of authoritarianism to happen right before our eyes, we no longer live in a free society.  The government cannot protect people from themselves.  None of these safety measures have done anything to protect us at airports, except to scare people into submission. 



 

IIIIITHE1IIIII on 20 March 2012
sperrico87 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

It's routines, after all. You never know how terrorists plan to hijack their next plane!


Sadly, integrity has to be sacrificed to maintain safety. There's no other way.


If this is true, then the terrorists have already won, and we might as well pack it in. Game over.

Their whole purpose for 9/11 was to scare people into voting for authoriatarians and turning America into a police state, destroying us from the inside.  They have us right where they want us, mired in the Middle East with no purpose, and they have us right where they want us here, destroying ourselves within our own borders from the inside out.


What the fuck are you talking about?

 

Firstly, "we" are leaving the Middle East. Secondly, how would minimizing the security make us less vulerable to terrorists?

 

"We" are not destroying ourselves within our borders; we are defending ourselves. The more effort, the less casualties.



Turkish on 20 March 2012
Cheebee said:

Lulz. The written comments that pop up in that vid are hilarious.
'My little boy was trembling with fear, he wanted me to hug him, but we were told we couldn't come near him!!'

Yeah right. The kid honestly didn't look like he gave a crap. Talk about paranoid parents. xD

It's just a procedure everyone has to follow. Boo-hoo, so what if the kid's in a wheelchair, he didn't looked bothered at all, if anything, just interested. Notice how he was looking over at the airport personnel all the time, wanting to check everything that was going on around him, and *not* over at his parents? (whom he *would* be looking at if he'd really been trembling with fear and longing for a loving hug to comfort him)

If they start making exceptions, it'll quickly become a mess.

Its not wether the kid gave a crap or not, its suspecting a kid in a wheelchair to be a terrorist. Having your family been violated like this, you approve? How will it quickly becoming a mess? Planting C4 in the wheelchair?



sperrico87 on 20 March 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
sperrico87 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

It's routines, after all. You never know how terrorists plan to hijack their next plane!


Sadly, integrity has to be sacrificed to maintain safety. There's no other way.


If this is true, then the terrorists have already won, and we might as well pack it in. Game over.

Their whole purpose for 9/11 was to scare people into voting for authoriatarians and turning America into a police state, destroying us from the inside.  They have us right where they want us, mired in the Middle East with no purpose, and they have us right where they want us here, destroying ourselves within our own borders from the inside out.

What the fuck are you talking about?  Firstly, "we" are leaving the Middle East.  Secondly, how would minimizing the security make us less vulerable to terrorists?  "We" are not destroying ourselves within our borders; we are defending ourselves.   The more effort, the less casualties.

Absolutely wrong.  Have you read at all about the reasons for the attack on 9/11?  We had bases on the Muslim Holy Lands, and we kept interjecting into other nation's internal affairs.  Without being asked to.  We created the problem of them wanting to come here in the first place.  If you don't realize that, then you can't begin to understand how to resolve this.

And, no, we are not leaving the Middle East.  I have no idea where you're getting that from.  We have bases all over the place over there.  And when we pulled most of the combat brigades out of Iraq last year (for purely political reasons) we replaced them all with DoD contractors, who by the way, cost MORE than combat troops. 

I would argue that there is a big difference between defending ourselves and overreacting to something that our government's policies caused in the first place.  And private airport security NOT run by bureaucrats would do a much better job with safety, and they would do it without destroying the 4th amendment.