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snakenobi said:
Jay520 said:
"almost all women act like whores"

LOL, that's the funniest thing I've read all day!

Also, Snake, Why do you create such large gaps between lines. One page break is sufficient.

yeah that is a problem.

as the edit window is  different and scrollable,when i type it looks different from what it look like in a post

I broke it up for you, and still no response.



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theprof00 said:
snakenobi said:
Jay520 said:
"almost all women act like whores"

LOL, that's the funniest thing I've read all day!

Also, Snake, Why do you create such large gaps between lines. One page break is sufficient.

yeah that is a problem.

as the edit window is  different and scrollable,when i type it looks different from what it look like in a post

I broke it up for you, and still no response.

i have it open

 

i was doing some work

 

i will respond



theprof00 said:
A big LOL at this thread.

ITT: People who can't handle change.

I hope I never reach a point in life where I look at society and think "things were better back in X"

i was only pointing to certain thing in past

respect,passion,invention,family,etc


         Hard to find someone with passion? Who do you think you talk to on these forums?

hard to find in real life

geeks are the most p[assionate people in the world but you rarely find them in real world,just on a few hardcore forums.

 

These are passionate people willing to argue with you for hours about nonsense. You obviously don't get out much either.

get out where?

 

i agree about VGCians being passionate

 

          You think people are fake, yet you fail to realize that these people who are superficial and repetitive are desperately struggling to be interesting and funny and witty because they are so insecure and because society has shown them so many diamonds.

I know

It's so hard to compete, so people do anything they can to stand out and it's really really so beautiful and passionate.

I do not think pretentious people passionate atall

they are just insecure


          It's a well of wishes and dreams and people trying so hard. I've always strived to never repeat jokes and always be original because that's who I am. I wouldn't for one second though, critcize people for their hugging the mainstream and superficial. There is so much hidden behind those facades that's just desperate to burst out. You're blind.

me seeing that makes me blind how?

         When men worked honest jobs?

howard huges

henry ford

wright brothers

etc

 

Guess what? Banking has been around since forever. If you have a humble job, be happy for your humble job and stop being so jealous of others.

i am young and have no job

 

You can have a right to be mad at ARM startups who caused the housing crisis, but don't lump all bankers together. There are plenty of really great independent and local banks that do a lot for their customers.

 

yeah they collect great interest.......................lol

          And on top of it, there are tons of activists who work hard for less than affordable income to bring green technology and recycling and renewable power, or cleaning the streets, or washing oil from wreckages....and they FIGHT to have the right to do that because there are some people who are trying to keep things the way they are. There are plenty of passionate people who are trying to live their dreams and "save the world". What are YOU doing?

i didn't say there weren't any honest people

i am just saying more and more people are going for fraud jobs

 

        The days when women were cultured? You mean repressed!

no i mean cultured

i am from india,women here are very cultured and respectfull

 

         Women were nothing more than statues to show off to guests and friends. Women were relegated to having kids and raising them and housework.

yeah some of it is true but i didn't talk about that

for exmaple the feminism movement that started after World war 2 wasn't really womens rights but womens exploitation

 

most women don't even like doing the jobs that men do,it is just insecurity that makes them do them.

 

women always liked to do soft stuff.designing,caring,etc

 

Women weren't allowed to travel,

really?

always had to have a man with them, and were pretty much devoid of rights. No right to vote, could not own land, could not make decisions regarding property, seldom were hired for jobs, and

i never said women rights were bad.

were nearly completely dependant on their partners, because of whom they've broken off into independence.

this is a very false belief.

 

that way a child is also dependent on their parents buit that doesn't make them slaves the way you try to say

 

women and men did things together.

 

feminist and liberal people use this stuff to exploit.


         Fun Fact: Women fought to be what they are today because MEN FUCKED IT UP. A woman's life was a losing proposition for 90% of the last 300 years, and 100% of everything before that, because of their enslavement by men. You look at life as a woman growing up and you think "I have to marry as well as possible, become good at all these household-y things (that I might not even be interested in) have kids, and hopefully, my husband doesn't beat me or gamble away all our money, or die in an accident, or leave me for someone else and LEAVE ME AND MY CHILDREN PENNILESS, HOMELESS, AND AT THE MERCY OF FAR GREATER SLAVEMASTERS.

         Why does society value a "sexualized woman"? Because since the dawn of time, the only women with any power were the sex workers, because the only thing a man wants from a woman is a warm *****It's been that way for thousands of years. Later women's power came in the form of entertainment, cabaret, and sex. You want to question why these facets became mainstream? Ask yourself why men refused to give women anything else. It is all man's fault.


yeah there were many more things too,should i add them

 

this tactic of grouping all the bad things to just make people go with your story trick won't work here

i wasn't saying that things didn't improve for humanity from technology to rights to other but i was just pointing towards a few good things like

repect,passion,inventions,etc which has gone down alot in the last few years


         Lots of people go to college to get into careers they want. Let me school you a little on college. College is now the number one requirement for being hired into a good job. Why? Because it shows that you can work hard on a goal while on your own. That is the number one thing. Lots of jobs, unless specific trade skills, do not care what your degree is because they just want to know that you can dedicate yourself. Sorry that that isn't kosher with you, but that's business. Get with the times.

people who just get with the time and don't question things i why soceity is like this today

if you are a submissive person,be it

 

don't tell others to be like you



snakenobi said:

You are from India?

I should have known.

India is a complete patriarchy. My mother was married to an Indian man, and he didn't do shit around the house. He expected to be waited on and have all the chores done for him. He'd cook and make a mess of the kitchen and not clean it. He ate with his hands and made disgusting noises because he chewed with his mouth open. Not only that but he gambled all the fucking time. He promised me that he would drive me and my date for prom, (I'm not asking for a limo, etc etc) but 2 days before, he went to the casino and disappeared for the rest of the week.

They have no regard for children, teens, women. Indian guy that owns the dunkin donuts near my house only hires good looking women. No men, no average-looking girls.

I hate to generalize for just a few people, but if you don't like it, go back to India where female infanticide is still an issue. According to India, killing baby girls is no big sin. Your country is in for some big changes, so get your ass ready.



theprof00 said:
snakenobi said:

You are from India?

I should have known.

India is a complete patriarchy.My mother was married to an Indian man, and he didn't do shit around the house.He expected to be waited on and have all the chores done for him.He'd cook and make a mess of the kitchen and not clean it.

He ate with his hands and made disgusting noises because he chewed with his mouth open. Not only that but he gambled all the fucking time. He promised me that he would drive me and my date for prom, (I'm not asking for a limo, etc etc) but 2 days before, he went to the casino and disappeared for the rest of the week.

They have no regard for children, teens, women.

india is a big country so different differrent people behave different way.don't mix it all up.

india has alot of problem but it isn't patriarchy.Only in rural areas.

Women are very respected here

if your mom picked a stupid ass guy,thats her problem.


Indian guy that owns the dunkin donuts near my house only hires good looking women. No men, no average-looking girls.

why do you think people immigrate?

people who don't have good life in their own country immigrate.most immigrant are poor in their own country.so they come with that thinking.


I hate to generalize for just a few people, but if you don't like it, go back to India where female infanticide is still an issue. According to India, killing baby girls is no big sin.

that is crime by indian law

its cause india has alot of rural area where this kind of thing happens

 

Your country is in for some big changes, so get your ass ready.

what does that mean?



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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Who likes old societal morals and values more??

 

Best question in a long time.


Don't buy into that...just like today, a small percentage set the standard perception of America. The same things that happen now happened back then. 



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snakenobi said:

theprof00 said:

1.  hard to find in real life

geeks are the most p[assionate people in the world but you rarely find them in real world,just on a few hardcore forums.

 

2

I do not think pretentious people passionate atall

they are just insecure

me seeing that makes me blind how?

 

3 howard huges

henry ford

wright brothers

etc

 

4

I am young and have no job

 

 

5.

I didn't say there weren't any honest people

i am just saying more and more people are going for fraud jobs

 

6 no i mean cultured

i am from india,women here are very cultured and respectfull

 

7

yeah some of it is true but i didn't talk about that

for exmaple the feminism movement that started after World war 2 wasn't really womens rights but womens exploitation

 

8 most women don't even like doing the jobs that men do,it is just insecurity that makes them do them.

women always liked to do soft stuff.designing,caring,etc

 

i never said women rights were bad.

 

10

were nearly completely dependant on their partners, because of whom they've broken off into independence.

this is a very false belief.

that way a child is also dependent on their parents buit that doesn't make them slaves the way you try to say

women and men did things together.

feminist and liberal people use this stuff to exploit.

11.
yeah there were many more things too,should i add them

this tactic of grouping all the bad things to just make people go with your story trick won't work here

i wasn't saying that things didn't improve for humanity from technology to rights to other but i was just pointing towards a few good things like

repect,passion,inventions,etc which has gone down alot in the last few years


12 people who just get with the time and don't question things i why soceity is like this today

if you are a submissive person,be it

 

don't tell others to be like you

1. Lies. I find people like this in life all the time.

2. YOU call them pretentious, because it makes you feel better to think of them as such. They are not pretentious, they are trying to be "normal". Yes there are pretentious people and nobody likes those people. But just being superficial is not being pretentious.

3. Oh please...

4. Then do that inventing thing you're so fond of.

5. Prove it. Show me statistics.

6. Women are not highly cultured and respectful. They are repressed.

7. Exploitation refers to the taking advantage of of women. Show me what you're talking about where that happened.

8. Complete and utter bullshit. Spoken like a true patriarch.

9. No you didn't, but you're dodging the issue that women fought for these rights and that society is the way it is today because men fucked up so hard that women can't trust us to protect them.

10. A child only needs dependence for so long as they need to be. A woman was expected to be dependent for life. In fact, divorce or widowing would often leave the woman unable to remarry because of stigma, and live alone by themselves until they run out of money. Furthermore, a child gains abilities as they grow. A woman in a dependent relationship can only have a certain amount of abilities. When the man is gone, what is the woman supposed to do? They are not trained for any skills. In India, on average, the male starts learning life skills and ablities very early on, and a woman doesn't get a job until her late 40's! She's pretty much USELESS at that point. What great accomplishments can she acheive? She's been repressed her entire life. So, your analogy of child and woman is very bad one.

11. Again, you have no proof. All you ahve is your limited point of view, and you're not even doing anythng to change it, just complaining about it.

12. No, people who get with the times are the masters of the future. The new thing is to buy music on iTunes, not CDs anymore. You can get with the times, and learn about how these new ideas work, or you can keep buying tapes/cds, and never be able to understand how new technology is changing your life. It is the same with everything.

 

Oh, and I am not a submissive person. I am the real dominance. You are a fake idea of dominance.



theprof00 said:
thekitchensink said:
theprof00 said:
thekitchensink said:

Agree to disagree, my good man.

But no one is arguing that women shouldn't go to school or get jobs.

The fact is, walk into the average high school these days:

- The average girl is wearing a six-inch skirt 

- Students have little respect for their elders

- The school's day-care is full of kids whose parents are about thirteen years older than them

- The kindergarteners are little shits who can't stop swearing.  When I was that age (which was only 17 or 18 years ago) you would NEVER hear a four-year-old kid tell you fuck off.

Like I said, I could go on forever.

However, neither of us are going to change each other's minds.  I respect your opinion, and I ask that you respect mine.  Again, agree to disagree :)

I'm sorry but prove it.

I work at a school sometimes and everything you've said is completely false.

Seems like you get your version of society from the media. Presumably the "values oriented" media.

Nope, I'm going off what I've seen in person.  I also sometimes work at schools (both elementary and high school), and I see all of these things that I mentioned.  And the troubling part is that these same schools weren't like that just a few years ago.

What school? DC public? LA high? I'm in BOSTON, and I don't see that.


I'm in Canada--we're supposed to be the 'nice' ones and I see it at schools all over the place.



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Snakenobi, you are from India right? I noticed you talk a lot about bankers in your posts. Are you being reminded of bankers and the negative effects of their actions particularily because you live in India?



theprof00 said:

1. Lies. I find people like this in life all the time.

then the people around you are great

 

about passion,all people are passionate about something or the other

 

but few people really do something with it

 

i am talking about those people

 

2. YOU call them pretentious, because it makes you feel better to think of them as such. They are not pretentious, they are trying to be "normal". Yes there are pretentious people and nobody likes those people. But just being superficial is not being pretentious.

i know

 

thats why i said they should not pretend to be normal and just be themselves

3. Oh please...

Oh really

4. Then do that inventing thing you're so fond of.

i am

 

here you show those signs of insecurity that you just forgot and started getting personal when you argumetn didn't live up to


5. Prove it. Show me statistics.

can't,don't have time.replying your humogous post alone takes alot of time

indian cultures are very conservative

and if you know anything about Taoic or dharmic religion and its philosophy,its far more logical and better then what you get in west.

and that philosophy of respect is applied in our soceity

6. Women are not highly cultured and respectful. They are repressed.

then you can call the men also repressed.As men are also very conservative.

its obvious not all men are but most men don't act like shit bags

 

Not conservative in ancient religoius thinking but values.

7. Exploitation refers to the taking advantage of of women. Show me what you're talking about where that happened.

just come to india and you will know.women aren't exploited here.

though more and more globalization is spreading the culture here too.

8. Complete and utter bullshit. Spoken like a true patriarch.

talk to more women and you will know

9. No you didn't, but you're dodging the issue that women fought for these rights and that society is the way it is today because men fucked up so hard that women can't trust us to protect them.

what?

then how did women survive all this time?

 

men wouldn't function properly if their partner wasn't happy.


10. A child only needs dependence for so long as they need to be. A woman was expected to be dependent for life. In fact, divorce or widowing would often leave the woman unable to remarry because of stigma, and live alone by themselves until they run out of money. Furthermore, a child gains abilities as they grow. A woman in a dependent relationship can only have a certain amount of abilities. When the man is gone, what is the woman supposed to do? They are not trained for any skills. In India, on average, the male starts learning life skills and ablities very early on, and a woman doesn't get a job until her late 40's! She's pretty much USELESS at that point. What great accomplishments can she acheive? She's been repressed her entire life. So, your analogy of child and woman is very bad one.

i am against all of that

 

11. Again, you have no proof. All you ahve is your limited point of view, and you're not even doing anythng to change it, just complaining about it.

hey most of the things in this post are started by you

my OP is pretty small

its your limited view not mine

 

12. No, people who get with the times are the masters of the future.

no that are people who find out the faults of present and then vision the future without them

not like you jst go along.

 

The new thing is to buy music on iTunes, not CDs anymore.

that technology

i was talking about thinking of people and soceity

 

You can get with the times, and learn about how these new ideas work, or you can keep buying tapes/cds, and never be able to understand how new technology is changing your life. It is the same with everything.

no it isn't

you are mixing dead objects with people and soceity

 

Oh, and I am not a submissive person. I am the real dominance. You are a fake idea of dominance.

your go along thinking is whats called submisive.check the dictionary