Let me quote Yoda on this: One good week does not a great selling handheld make.
Let me quote Yoda on this: One good week does not a great selling handheld make.
atma998 said:
Hey Gilgamesh, nothing to add? |
*sign* fine I'll amuse you
Again obviously the games I mentioned even if there not officially announced will come to the Vita, and they will sell the best on the Vita, the market for RE/MH/FF is in Sonys hand compared to the 3DS. Call of duty is releasing this fall for the vita, no idea why you think it's not announced it's pretty well known. And the reason call of duty isn't popular on handhelds is why everyone? because its the shittiest controls known to man, until now, adding that second analogue stick makes a huge deal, not to mention the portability and connectivity to Vita owners friends. As for GT game on PSP, piracy.
" (heard that argument about motion control last gen...)"
Yup and now look at it, pretty well dried up. Got a "good few years out of it though".
" lot of complaints of head aches (Never heard about that) and limiting age group (there is no limiting age on Vita's games?),"
You seem to be confused I was talking about the 3DS, there is an age limit for the handheld itself and it's well known 3D gives headaches. Even Nintendo doesn't recommend playing for more then 30 mins I do believe.
"how many more decades are people going to buy basically the same game with updated graphics and a new name of console next to the title (why not asking the same question for Sony franchises?)"
I have I found out that Sony makes the most new and interesting IP's out there.
much like the PS3 (PS3 is still in third position) ......AND MANY MORE PRICE CUTS TO COME!
also yes PERFECT! controls for a handheld.
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
And you are seriously overestimating the power of having a portable Call of Duty. Only kids would appreciate that really since adults knows how kiddy it looks to play a fucking portable at work. (Oh wait, you mean actual school lunch breaks? Would make more sense then.)
People will prefer the far superior home console versions. No doubt or whatsoever. |
^^ Thank you.
It's just that simple.
noname2200 said:
Whether the two are similar depends on the details. When you made your proclamations, did you have any evidence to support you? Or were your ideas like Gilgamesh's, i.e. a load of drivel that's completely devoid of facts and contradictions, completely divorced from reality? An argument can be made for gilgamesh's position. But that requires more than mere assertions, most of which fly in the face of reality, and the rest of which are dependent on wishful thinking. It's not his theory that's amusing, it's his approach. |
Well, I believe I was a little more based in reality of the entire situation. I saw the DS becoming popular (especially in Japan at the time). I also then saw that Nintendo was focusing a lot on controls which is the most important aspect to gaming to me. Anyways, you be the judge... I didn't sound as confident as I wanted in the interview due to being surprised with a phone interview while in the middle of smoking weed!
http://www.dailytoreador.com/archives/article_d160d55c-67b9-56c8-9cab-9b1a24132d5b.html
"Nintendo might come back," he said. "They're definitely coming back in Japan."
sethnintendo said: Well, I believe I was a little more based in reality of the entire situation. I saw the DS becoming popular (especially in Japan at the time). I also then saw that Nintendo was focusing a lot on controls which is the most important aspect to gaming to me. Anyways, you be the judge... I didn't sound as confident as I wanted in the interview due to being surprised with a phone interview while in the middle of smoking weed!
http://www.dailytoreador.com/archives/article_d160d55c-67b9-56c8-9cab-9b1a24132d5b.html "Nintendo might come back," he said. "They're definitely coming back in Japan."
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Those comments sound pretty even-tempered to me!
But I mostly meant those questions to be rhetorical. Sorry if that wasn't clear. >_> I know you well enough to think you had something to back you up. My thing with gilgamesh revolves around the fact that he just plain doesn't.
Sony must push development of 1st and 3rd party games that make good use of the 2 analog sticks interface. This way, when 3DS will eventually get the 2nd stick as standard equipment, its split user base will make it weaker on some genres. Obviously the two screens already give 3DS the lead in some other games and genres, even more a good reason for PSV to be as strong as possible where 3DS is weaker and carve and possibly expand a part of the market for itself, to at least partially balance 3DS' advantages.
This obviously won't grant PSV the leadership, but it could make it stronger than expected.
My prediction if PSV succeeds to expand the portable consoles audience in a direction where it can be stronger:
Lifetime sales
DS>3DS>PSV>PSP
VGKing said:
PLAYSTATION NETWORK. Cross-platform gameplay. Nuff said. |
lol let me put it this way.
Cod gamers play COD on 360, then PS3.
Everything else gets scraps.
Gilgamesh said:
*sign* fine I'll amuse you Again obviously the games I mentioned even if there not officially announced will come to the Vita, and they will sell the best on the Vita, the market for RE/MH/FF is in Sonys hand compared to the 3DS. Call of duty is releasing this fall for the vita, no idea why you think it's not announced it's pretty well known. And the reason call of duty isn't popular on handhelds is why everyone? because its the shittiest controls known to man, until now, adding that second analogue stick makes a huge deal, not to mention the portability and connectivity to Vita owners friends. As for GT game on PSP, piracy. " (heard that argument about motion control last gen...)" Yup and now look at it, pretty well dried up. Got a "good few years out of it though". " lot of complaints of head aches (Never heard about that) and limiting age group (there is no limiting age on Vita's games?)," You seem to be confused I was talking about the 3DS, there is an age limit for the handheld itself and it's well known 3D gives headaches. Even Nintendo doesn't recommend playing for more then 30 mins I do believe. "how many more decades are people going to buy basically the same game with updated graphics and a new name of console next to the title (why not asking the same question for Sony franchises?)" I have I found out that Sony makes the most new and interesting IP's out there. much like the PS3 (PS3 is still in third position) ......AND MANY MORE PRICE CUTS TO COME! also yes PERFECT! controls for a handheld. |
- By the time these "unnannouced games" hit the Vita, the gap will be far too large. The 3ds is getting great games NOW.
- RE, MH, and FF are Nintendo territory on handhelds.
- Again, COD is for 360 and PS3. All else gets scraps.
"I have I found out that Sony makes the most new and interesting IP's out there."
Funniest comment I heard in a while. Especially funny given that we are on a sales website that tells you straight up that Sony cant give a game that remotely produces the interest/sales on the level of Mario.
Gilgamesh said:
That's different, Nintendos first party is basically unsurpasable, put the name Mario, Zelda, or Kart on the box and Nintendo fans go ape sh*t over it and every single owner buys it, thats why Nintendo fans buy Nintendo consoles to only buy these games. But right now Call of Duty is the thing this genration it's the biggest game's people are buying. Like last gen, what was the biggest games on the PS2? GTA. Then the PSP releases and what became the biggest selling game on the PSP? GTA. |
Still, with 3 GTA titles in the PSP, it couldn't exceed the DS in sales. Not that matters anyway since my point was that CoD and Fifa has yearly releases that are almost identical to it's predeccesor. It was kinda of a joke.
I still believe the 3DS will win this generation, but the PSV will give battle that's for sure.
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leper-apostle said:
I think many just repeat what they read from articles about the phone market, yet there is not a single shred of evidence the phone market has impacted gaming handhedls, at all. |
How hasn't the smart phone market affected the handheld gaming market? Sales of 3DS and PSV are lower than either DS or PSP at launch. You don't have to have either to get your casual gaming fix anymore. It is very naive to think that smart phones and tablets won't affect this generation of portables, if infact it doesnt make this the last generation of dedicated mobile gaming devices.